Hi Steven, this is a long time question ... and I absolutely agree with you, we should support at least the Java (integrated) logging system instead of System.out/System.err . Of course the problem is that its implementation is not the best (from an Enterprise point of view) and it's not pluggable with other standard logging frameworks (the real standard, de facto). If we find a simple and pluggable way, we could deliver the default implementation (for Java standard logging) with Pivot, and have maybe others in our secondary subprojects, for example under Apache-Extras.
For 2.1 we could start to look at how to support this ... If you have some time, please open a JIRA issue for this here https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIVOT Of course for suggestions etc we are here, or be free to post/attach things even in the issue. Probably Roger (he has created one of biggest Pivot Applications, for the Enterprise world) could say something on this ... Note: I know that we need many changes now (not always so-compatible with current code base), this is the reason of my pressure for start working on the 2.1 release, but as you know currently we are a too little dev group, so we must before close existing issues for 2.0.x. But in the meantime we can discuss of any improvement for the 2.1 ... and of course help (but not only in code, even in discussing things) is always welcome :-) . Bye, Sandro
