>From: "Mike Kienenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>
> I haven't really done anything with JPA yet, but there's both an 
> OpenJPA project as well as Cayenne in the Incubator. Both support 
> (or are in the process of implementing support for) JPA. 
>

Outstanding, I keep an eye on those too.

 
> On 9/22/06, Gary VanMatre wrote: 
> > >From: "Mike Kienenberger" 
> > > 
> > > On 9/22/06, Gary VanMatre wrote: 
> > > > I've not hooked this into a web app yet. Please share any 
> > > > thoughts/ideas 
> you 
> > > might have on this project. 
> > > 
> > > If you're talking about Toplink, I last evaluated it a couple years 
> > > ago. "Buggy closed-source" was the evaluation at that time. 
> > 
> > I think that's confusing allot of people. Oracle delivered the RI for the 
> > new 
> Java Persistence Architecture (JPA). The JPA RI is rooted in Oracles Toplink 
> product but it's based on the new API that requires Java 1.5. The key to this 
> new JPA API is that it is an "API" that you plug-in your own provider. If you 
> decide you would rather use JBOSS, or the new Apache JPA provider, it 
> shouldn't 
> require code refactoring. 
> > 
> > To make matters more confusing, Oracle has delivered a technology preview 
> > of 
> EJB 3 in their 10.1.3 application server which is J2EE 1.4. I think this is 
> actually a great move but the confusing part is that it's not 100% pure to 
> the 
> JPA API. You can only use it in container where Oracle's JPA RI can be used 
> out 
> of container. I'm most interested in the out of container use of JPA. 
> > 
> > That's what this little project is in the shale sandbox 
> (http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/shale/sandbox/shale-clay-jpa/). 
> > 
> > Gary 
> > 

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