Cool...can I add loadRowMatrix in your PR ?

Thanks.
Deb

On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 1:14 AM, Reza Zadeh <r...@databricks.com> wrote:

> Hi Deb,
>
> Did you mean to message me instead of Xiangrui?
>
> For TS matrices, dimsum with positiveinfinity and computeGramian have the
> same cost, so you can do either one. For dense matrices with say, 1m
> columns this won't be computationally feasible and you'll want to start
> sampling with dimsum.
>
> It would be helpful to have a loadRowMatrix function, I would use it.
>
> Best,
> Reza
>
> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 12:05 AM, Debasish Das <debasish.da...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Xiangrui,
>>
>> For tall skinny matrices, if I can pass a similarityMeasure to
>> computeGrammian, I could re-use the SVD's computeGrammian for similarity
>> computation as well...
>>
>> Do you recommend using this approach for tall skinny matrices or just use
>> the dimsum's routines ?
>>
>> Right now RowMatrix does not have a loadRowMatrix function like the one
>> available in LabeledPoint...should I add one ? I want to export the matrix
>> out from my stable code and then test dimsum...
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Deb
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Reza Zadeh <r...@databricks.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I will add dice, overlap, and jaccard similarity in a future PR,
>>> probably still for 1.2
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 9:15 PM, Debasish Das <debasish.da...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Awesome...Let me try it out...
>>>>
>>>> Any plans of putting other similarity measures in future (jaccard is
>>>> something that will be useful) ? I guess it makes sense to add some
>>>> similarity measures in mllib...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 8:55 PM, Reza Zadeh <r...@databricks.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes you're right, calling dimsum with gamma as PositiveInfinity turns
>>>>> it into the usual brute force algorithm for cosine similarity, there is no
>>>>> sampling. This is by design.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 8:20 PM, Debasish Das <debasish.da...@gmail.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I looked at the code: similarColumns(Double.posInf) is generating the
>>>>>> brute force...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Basically dimsum with gamma as PositiveInfinity will produce the
>>>>>> exact same result as doing catesian products of RDD[(product, vector)] 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> computing similarities or there will be some approximation ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry I have not read your paper yet. Will read it over the weekend.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Reza Zadeh <r...@databricks.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For 60M x 10K brute force and dimsum thresholding should be fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For 60M x 10M probably brute force won't work depending on the
>>>>>>> cluster's power, and dimsum thresholding should work with appropriate
>>>>>>> threshold.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dimensionality reduction should help, and how effective it is will
>>>>>>> depend on your application and domain, it's worth trying if the direct
>>>>>>> computation doesn't work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can also try running KMeans clustering (perhaps after
>>>>>>> dimensionality reduction) if your goal is to find batches of similar 
>>>>>>> points
>>>>>>> instead of all pairs above a threshold.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Debasish Das <
>>>>>>> debasish.da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also for tall and wide (rows ~60M, columns 10M), I am considering
>>>>>>>> running a matrix factorization to reduce the dimension to say ~60M x 
>>>>>>>> 50 and
>>>>>>>> then run all pair similarity...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Did you also try similar ideas and saw positive results ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 7:54 PM, Debasish Das <
>>>>>>>> debasish.da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ok...just to make sure I have RowMatrix[SparseVector] where rows
>>>>>>>>> are ~ 60M and columns are 10M say with billion data points...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have another version that's around 60M and ~ 10K...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I guess for the second one both all pair and dimsum will run
>>>>>>>>> fine...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But for tall and wide, what do you suggest ? can dimsum handle it ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I might need jaccard as well...can I plug that in the PR ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Reza Zadeh <r...@databricks.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You might want to wait until Wednesday since the interface will
>>>>>>>>>> be changing in that PR before Wednesday, probably over the weekend, 
>>>>>>>>>> so that
>>>>>>>>>> you don't have to redo your code. Your call if you need it before a 
>>>>>>>>>> week.
>>>>>>>>>> Reza
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 7:43 PM, Debasish Das <
>>>>>>>>>> debasish.da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ohh cool....all-pairs brute force is also part of this PR ? Let
>>>>>>>>>>> me pull it in and test on our dataset...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>> Deb
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Reza Zadeh <r...@databricks.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Deb,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We are adding all-pairs and thresholded all-pairs via dimsum in
>>>>>>>>>>>> this PR: https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/1778
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Your question wasn't entirely clear - does this answer it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Reza
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Debasish Das <
>>>>>>>>>>>> debasish.da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Reza,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you compared with the brute force algorithm for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> similarity computation with something like the following in Spark 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/echen/scaldingale
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am adding cosine similarity computation but I do want to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> compute an all pair similarities...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note that the data is sparse for me (the data that goes to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> matrix factorization) so I don't think joining and group-by on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (product,product) will be a big issue for me...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does it make sense to add all pair similarities as well with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dimsum based similarity ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 9:21 PM, Reza Zadeh <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> r...@databricks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Xiaoli,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a PR currently in progress to allow this, via the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sampling scheme described in this paper:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stanford.edu/~rezab/papers/dimsum.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The PR is at https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/336 though
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it will need refactoring given the recent changes to matrix 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interface in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MLlib. You may implement the sampling scheme for your own app 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much code.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reza
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 9:17 PM, Xiaoli Li <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lixiaolima...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your suggestion. I have tried the method. I used
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8 nodes and every node has 8G memory. The program just stopped 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at a stage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for about several hours without any further information. Maybe 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I need to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out a more efficient way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Andrew Ash <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and...@andrewash.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The naive way would be to put all the users and their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attributes into an RDD, then cartesian product that with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> itself.  Run the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> similarity score on every pair (1M * 1M => 1T scores), map to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (user,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (score, otherUser)) and take the .top(k) for each user.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I doubt that you'll be able to take this approach with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1T pairs though, so it might be worth looking at the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> literature for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recommender systems to see what else is out there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 9:54 PM, Xiaoli Li <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lixiaolima...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am implementing an algorithm using Spark. I have one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> million users. I need to compute the similarity between each 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pair of users
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using some user's attributes.  For each user, I need to get 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top k most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar users. What is the best way to implement this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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