@td does that mean that the "old" broadcasted data will in any way be
"garbage collected" at some point if no RDD or transformation is using it
anymore ?

Regards,

Olivier.

2015-04-09 21:49 GMT+02:00 Amit Assudani <[email protected]>:

> Thanks a lot TD for detailed answers. The answers lead to few more
> questions,
>
>
>    1. "the transform RDD-to-RDD function runs on the driver “ - I didn’t
>    understand this, does it mean when I use transform function on DStream, it
>    is not parallelized, surely I m missing something here.
>    2.  updateStateByKey I think won’t work in this use case,  I have
>    three separate attribute streams ( with different frequencies ) make up the
>    combined state ( i.e. Entity ) at point in time on which I want to do some
>    processing. Do you think otherwise ?
>    3. transform+join seems only option so far, but any guestimate how
>    would this perform/ react on cluster ? Assuming, master data in 100s of
>    Gbs, and join is based on some row key. We are talking about slice of
>    stream data to be joined with 100s of Gbs of master data continuously. Is
>    it something can be done but should not be done ?
>
> Regards,
> Amit
>
> From: Tathagata Das <[email protected]>
> Date: Thursday, April 9, 2015 at 3:13 PM
> To: amit assudani <[email protected]>
> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Lookup / Access of master data in spark streaming
>
> Responses inline. Hope they help.
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 8:20 AM, Amit Assudani <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Friends,
>>
>> I am trying to solve a use case in spark streaming, I need help on
>> getting to right approach on lookup / update the master data.
>>
>> Use case ( simplified )
>> I’ve a dataset of entity with three attributes and identifier/row key in
>> a persistent store.
>>
>> Each attribute along with row key come from a different stream let’s say,
>> effectively 3 source streams.
>>
>> Now whenever any attribute comes up, I want to update/sync the persistent
>> store and do some processing, but the processing would require the latest
>> state of entity with latest values of three attributes.
>>
>> I wish if I have the all the entities cached in some sort of centralized
>> cache ( like we have data in hdfs ) within spark streaming which may be
>> used for data local processing. But I assume there is no such thing.
>>
>> potential approaches I m thinking of, I suspect first two are not
>> feasible, but I want to confirm,
>>       1.  Is Broadcast Variables mutable ? If yes, can I use it as cache
>> for all entities sizing  around 100s of GBs provided i have a cluster with
>> enough RAM.
>>
>
> Broadcast variables are not mutable. But you can always create a new
> broadcast variable when you want and use the "latest" broadcast variable in
> your computation.
>
> dstream.transform { rdd =>
>
>    val latestBroacast = getLatestBroadcastVariable()  // fetch existing or
> update+create new and return
>    val transformedRDD = rdd. ......  // use  latestBroacast in RDD
> tranformations
>    transformedRDD
> }
>
> Since the transform RDD-to-RDD function runs on the driver every batch
> interval, it will always use the latest broadcast variable that you want.
> Though note that whenever you create a new broadcast, the next batch may
> take a little longer to as the data needs to be actually broadcasted out.
> That can also be made asynchronous by running a simple task (to force the
> broadcasting out) on any new broadcast variable in a different thread as
> Spark Streaming batch schedule, but using the same underlying Spark Context.
>
>
>
>>
>>    1. Is there any kind of sticky partition possible, so that I route my
>>    stream data to go through the same node where I've the corresponding
>>    entities, subset of entire store, cached in memory within JVM / off heap 
>> on
>>    the node, this would avoid lookups from store.
>>
>> You could use updateStateByKey. That is quite sticky, but does not
> eliminate the possibility that it can run on a different node. In fact this
> is necessary for fault-tolerance - what if the node it was supposed to run
> goes down? The task will be run on a different node, and you have to
>  design your application such that it can handle that.
>
>
>>    1. If I stream the entities from persistent store into engine, this
>>    becomes 4th stream - the entity stream, how do i use join / merge to 
>> enable
>>    stream 1,2,3 to lookup and update the data from stream 4. Would
>>    DStream.join work for few seconds worth of data in attribute streams with
>>    all data in entity stream ? Or do I use transform and within that use rdd
>>    join, I’ve doubts if I am leaning towards core spark approach in spark
>>    streaming ?
>>
>>
> Depends on what kind of join! If you want the join every batch in stream
> with a static data set (or rarely updated dataset), the transform+join is
> the way to go. If you want to join one stream with a window of data from
> another stream, then DStream.join is the way to go.
>
>>
>>    1.
>>
>>
>>    1. The last approach, which i think will surely work but i want to
>>    avoid, is i keep the entities in IMDB and do lookup/update calls on from
>>    stream 1,2 and 3.
>>
>>
>> Any help is deeply appreciated as this would help me design my system
>> efficiently and the solution approach may become a beacon for lookup master
>> data sort of problems.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Amit
>>
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