rofl!
Reckon Im gonna be forwarding that link a fair bit. Nice :-)

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From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Vic Cekvenich
Sent: Wednesday, 31 March 2004 22:39
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Subject: Re: JavaServer Face


There is also a digram to help you get the picture:
http://www.theserverside.com/cartoons/TalesFromTheServerSide.tss

.V

Mark Lowe wrote:
> There was a long thread on the developers list last week where the
> question of whether JSF would replace struts was discussed.
>
> The basic conclusions of those taking part in the discussion what that
> struts was originally designed to fill a gap in the servlet api, and
> that the role of struts and open source projects in general are often to
> fill these gaps without the rigid and slower process of JSR.
>
> Check the dev list mail archives for "struts JSR" and read the thread.
>
> Mark
> On 31 Mar 2004, at 11:00, Xuemin Guan wrote:
>
>> Hi, All, I know this is a bit off topic. But really want to
>> get an opinion about it from the Struts users.
>>
>> The JavaServer Face 1.0, or JSF, has been released. It claims to
>> be a framework for building web-based user interfaces in Java.
>> Like Swing, it provides a set of standard widgets  (buttons,
>> hyperlinks, checkboxes, and so on). What I want to know is, can
>> JSF truly facilitate constructing a highly complex
>> user interface just like Swing does? If it can't, is Applet still the way
>> to go(don't hear much about it these days. Is Applet dead? Is there
>> an alternative to Applet when it comes to constructing a web
>> browser-accessed highly complex GUI?) Given the fact that Struts already
>> provides many features JavaServer Face provides(such as validation,
>> internalization, and tags for constructing UI widgets etc),  what's
>> the significant benefit to gain by adopting JSF? or combining them?(I
>> heard
>> this
>> is possible, and someone says it would be a powerful combination.) And
>> the
>> final question is will the JSF replace Struts in the future?
>>
>> Any comment is welcome.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Xuemin
>>
>>
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