Well,

I use Eclipse, and Jbuilder as my primary IDEs. 
Both are nice and I was consedring them the best IDEs out there. 

But when JDeveloper10g  released, I think I have changed my mind.

Top reasons that I liked Jdeveloper are:
* performance + the look and feel. 
* Completeness ( including UML & DB modeling and DB access sheets).
* the JSP viual development.
* the excellent Struts support ( much better than Excadle and
JbuilderX).

(btw, Jdev is free to download and use personally, but you need a
development licence ( not free) if you want to use it in production.)



Regarding Sun Java Creator,
I have used it, the idea is nice. But still missing lots of things.
Hopfully sun will do it right in the offecial release.

It would be greate if Jdeveloper10g gives us the same JSF support as Sun
java creator.






Amjad Shahrour
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-----Original Message-----
From: Smith, Darrin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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I'd also like to hear user's experience with Sun's Java Studio Creator
(and
its support for JSF technology).


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Barry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:41 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: [OT] Oracle JDev 10g Final (9.0.5.1 build 1605) is out!


I have been using Eclipse for a while now.  It is a little slow a times,

but overall works pretty well.  Have any eclipse users tried JDeveloper?

  Any reason to switch?  Is JDeveloper free?

Amjad Shahrour wrote:

> Just wanted to say my toughts about Jdeveloper10g.
> 
> Simply it is GREATE!!.  
> 
> And there is no other IDE that can even compete with it.
> *It has everything that I need.
> * extraordinary performace ( I cant believe its pure java ;) )
> * very very very organized. 
> * I feel very comfortable when I use it.
> * this what IDEs should be.
> * IMO it is far better than VS.net.
> 
> good work Jdeveloper10g team.
> 
> I am Looking forward a plugin that simplyfies the JSF development
> (visually).
> 
> regards
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Amjad Shahrour
> Application Developer
> Tel: +966.2.653.3334 ext 213
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.labbaik.com
>  
>  
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Duncan Mills [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 11:12 AM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [OT] Oracle JDev 10g Final (9.0.5.1 build 1605) is out!
> 
> Eric it's a pure Java App - you can run it on Mac, Linux or whatever -

> plenty of people did run the Preview on Mac without too many problems
- 
> if you have any problems or issues just post them on OTN.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Duncan Mills
> Senior Principal Product Manager
> Oracle Application Development Tools
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
> Erik Price wrote:
> 
> 
>>On Apr 14, 2004, at 4:24 AM, Christian Bollmeyer wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Finally!
>>>
>>>http://otn.oracle.com/software/products/jdev/index.html (249MB)
>>>
>>>-- Chris
>>
>>
>>No MacOSX version?
>>
>>
>>>:(
>>
>>
>>
>>
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