> -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 17 June 2004 16:03 > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Subject: RE: [OT] Soccer portal released goal.com > > > > Way back in April I was quite impressed by a demonstration > > Visual .Net / Managed C++ / C# talking directly to a J2EE 1.4 > > web service. The guy demonstrated the whole thing in under > > five minutes. So I have been wondering what is the state of the > > art of tools under J2EE, but I guess I will find in two weeks > > at J1. > > > I wish i shared that experience. My complaints about .NET all > stem back to > one thing - it's a closed source MS product. They are about > as good at > fixing bugs as complying with standards! > > I find open source java solutions far better - you find a bug > you ask for a > fix, or fix it yourself. You find the software doesnt do > what you want, you > hack the code to do it! With .NET this is impossible. > > I have recently written web services for our software to > interoperate with > an MS .NET system. It was an absolute nightmare. Bugs in MS's soap > implementation stopped it from accessing our service. This > was eventually > overcome, but accessing the .NET service was even more > painful. I cannot > use Apache AXIS (directly) to access the service because AXIS > generates a > request with slightly different namespace declaration (but an > equally valid > one) than MS expects: > > <ns1:GetData > soapenv:encodingStyle="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/"; > xmlns:ns1="http://tempuri.org";> > > The example SOAP XML which MS gives you as an example (which works): > > <GetData xmlns="http://tempuri.org/";> > > The only solution to this i found was to generate my own > "SoapEnvelope" > object and use axis to send it, which makes for an ugly solution. > > Generally i find the state of J2EE tools to be better than > .NET, however > they are harder to find and sometimes get started with. MS's > one benefit > here is everything comes in the one box! There are some > things i quite like > about .NET but i just dont like microsofts implementation. > Hopefully MONO > are going to do better :) > > Daniel.
Thnaks for that. Sounds like another open source project needs to be written "Wrapper Around Mycrosoft .Net" in ernest. Your experience is exactly my experience with Visual C++ back in 1999. Confused I'ill alway be once you get beyond the tutorial examples! I am a Linux phile so I would like to get into C# and stuff using MONO. It does look like an interesting language to learn too. At CSFB in Operations/IT it is all J2EE at the moment, but you just never know, The world could turn on its head any day. -- Peter Pilgrim Operations/IT - Credit Suisse First Boston, 10 South Colonnade, London E14 4QJ, United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0)207 883 4447 ============================================================================== This message is for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you received this message in error please delete it and notify us. If this message was misdirected, CSFB does not waive any confidentiality or privilege. CSFB retains and monitors electronic communications sent through its network. Instructions transmitted over this system are not binding on CSFB until they are confirmed by us. Message transmission is not guaranteed to be secure. ============================================================================== --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
