I'm sorry Raghuram, I'm not able to understand your question. Could you elaborate?

Thanks,
Erik


Raghuram Kanadam wrote:

Erik,
        If prepopulation is an issue we are dealing with quit often, why cant we have 
a method similar to prepopulate which would be called whenever the html:form is called?



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Haha! Thanks Jim for your usual wit and insight. I will take your advice to heart. And thanks for the compliment.


I am gathering that by "fly in the security" you are referring to a "need to change something in more than one place" problem, rather than a "serious hole needs to be addressed" problem. If it's the latter, please elaborate (tough to tell without actually encountering the problem you describe). I don't want to fall into the ranks of "corporate" development. ;-)



Yeah... it's just a pain in the butt type problem that can get ugly if you're not careful about how you use wildcards.



I might do another example on extension mapping, put the two together in a nice HTML file, and actually have something to put on a server somewhere, behind one of the domain names I bought years ago. ;) I wonder if they support webwork? (only kidding)



Web work? HERETIC!!!! HERETIC!!!!! :) *LOL*



Erik

PS. Just teasing about corporate development. I love everything about this job and am grateful for the Java community at large. I think we are collectively heading for great things. I just don't want us to program ourselves out of a job!



The trick is to not let anyone know we've done it. Isn't that what remote development is all about? Madly developing code from the bahamas while getting a tan and sipping margaritas.. :)




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Sure, Raghuram.

Caution: long post!




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Finally, restricting access to *.jsp in your

web-resource-collection

element of web.xml can force your users to use the controller Servlet-relative action URIs and prevent them from accessing JSPs directly.




I usually assign a role of Developer to the *.jsp

collection, that way I can access them directly for debugging purposes, even when they're on the production box. It's one of those you might use it once a year, but boy is it nice to have category.






Also, I solved the problem that led to this post by putting an init-param in web.xml called "controllerPath". I set its

value as an

application scope attribute in a plug-in class. Now I can create controller-relative hyperlinks like this, using the JSTL-like tags:

<html:link page="${controllerPath}/vendor/home">home</html:link>

If someone wants to use extension mapping, I just set controllerPath to be the empty String.

Now, what I want to know is, what flies out the window when I decide to learn JSF? I'm afraid to look. ;)



JSF is essentially JSP, just a lot of tags you wish you had

now, so it will still work.


The fly that I see is security. Everytime you change your

controller servlet mapping, you would have to change these mappings. You could do */actor/*, however another servlet might be able to be tricked into providing access to the forbidden path. It's a minor nit of course... but hey you asked :)






By the time I learn JSF, someone will have developed a "CRUD IDE" that builds your entire app in five minutes, based on actor names and a CSS stylesheet. In a few years, we will have highly-paid "stack trace" experts. The average "corporate

developer"

will see a stack trace and run for the hills, having always thought they were a myth. The manager will have to call in a stack trace expert, who will, at the rate of $700 per hour, begin to explain to all the remaining developers what a "stack" is . . .




The problem would be what?  That we would be making to much money?





But seriously, hope this helps a newbie or two. Criticism is always welcome!

Erik





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