hi, Vic Cekvenich

please show me you private yahoo group, and I am interested in Flex.

thanks!

javen


On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 23:32:38 -0500, Vic Cekvenich
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> I spent many months on flex beta, etc, and have lauched production RIA apps.
> I found Flex slow (not RIA) on non-trivial "forms".
> 
> So for the last month I have been doing : https://jdnc.dev.java.net
> So far impresive. I have it working with Struts Chain getting data from
> iBatis for CRUD.
> Very fast.
> 
> I have a paper coming out on it in a week or 2, should be release on
> sofwarereality.com.
> 
> In the mean time, I have a priavte group on yahoo, so if anyone is
> active in sturts/os, let me know and I will show you what I designed so far.
> 
> ..V
> 
> Mike Duffy wrote:
> > I attended a Webinar today on FLEX, the new design environment from Macromedia.  
> > The system is
> > impressive in functionality, but not impressive in terms of integration with 
> > existing frameworks.
> > Essentially, integration is attained through the creation of web services; so, 
> > rather than having
> > a session object or backing bean, you create a web service that ties into a FLEX 
> > UI component.
> >
> > A major negative is cost.  A server component is required at a proposed cost of 
> > $12,000 per dual
> > CPU (FLEX is still in beta so this may change).
> >
> > In the past few months there have been several threads in this user group on 
> > Struts vs JSF.  While
> > I am a big fan of the simplicity and functionality of Struts, I am convinced that 
> > Struts in a
> > system that only has a traditional HTML UI will soon be yesterday's news.
> >
> > I would prefer not to be tied to any specific vendor, especailly at a high 
> > financial cost.
> >
> > I think the best solution would be to create JSF custom components that are on the 
> > same level as
> > the FLEX custom components.  Existing applications that are built on Struts could 
> > still use Struts
> > as the controller and make a transition to JSF (or some combination) for the View.
> >
> > IBM has a catalog of basic JSF custom components
> > http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/websphere/library/jsf/catalog/WebContent/
> >
> > What we really need is a catalog of advanced JSF components (things that make you 
> > go Wow!).
> >
> > I know that several people from Sun monitor this user group.  As a suggestion, I 
> > think it would be
> > a good idea to have a link to resources for advanced custom JSF components on the 
> > main JSF page:
> > http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/
> >
> > IMHO, it would be a great idea for Sun to sponsor a contest with financial rewards 
> > for the
> > creation of the coolest JSF custom components.
> >
> > If JSF does not evolve quickly to the same level as FLEX, then the future of 
> > interface design will
> > belong to Macromedia.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> >
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