Hi Howard

If you are starting a project from scratch, then Do NOT mix the 
frameworks. Vic is right when he says "it gets more complicated".

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All the provisions for framework-coexistence built into JSF are
usefull for the migration cases. Lets say when you have to add a 
new use-case to an existing struts-application and you think using
JSF could be worthwhile for this application. In this case you could
implement the new use-cases using JSF.

And using the struts-faces library you could prepare other elements
of the old application to ease the next migration steps.

When would an application profit from JSF?
a) if the application is supposed to survive some time requiring 
   migration to new J2EE-versions and major extensions
b) is required to fit into a new generation of JSF-applications and
   corporate standards require the use of new standard components

When would an application not profit from JSF?
a) This release is the last one. The application is supposed to be
   replaced by a new one.
b) No significant new UI-changes are predicted for the next few 
   releases... 

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hope this helps
Alexander

-----Original Message-----
From: Abrams, Howard A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 7:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: JSF or Struts w/ JSF (again)

Hi everyone,

For a new project, I'm planning on using JSF. The questions I need to
answer are:

What will Struts add if I use it together with JSF? Does it add missing
functionality? Is there a good design pattern that JSF alone does not
enforce? Are there common problems that are easier to solve using the
combination? (For the moment, ignore the validation framework and tiles)

I've been searching the internet and the list archives for answers. The
only concrete feature I found was message from Craig saying that because
all request processing is routed through a common controller, Struts
helps
implementing things such as authentication and logging. Is this
significantly easier that decorating the viewHandler or actionListener
in
JSF? Isn't that what struts-faces does anyway? (the message I'm
referring
to can be found here: http://mail-archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]&msgNo=112850)

I've got a fairly good handle on JSF, but I'm not proficient with
Struts.
I'm hoping some of the seasoned Struts developers reading this can point
out the benefits I've missed.
 
Thanks in advance,
Howard



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