On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 16:40:11 +0100, Stahlhut, Axel wrote:
> because i know that there are still a lot of decision-makers around
> that do not trust OpenSource products in their productive
> environments.

I think you only need to review some of the email addresses subscribed to this 
list to lean that many decision-makers do trust open source. For good measure, 
then go try some of the other Apache lists. :)

Personally, I think these discussions are facetious. We had this discussion 
years ago, and, after a lot of hard work, by Struts and many other products, 
the world is a different place now. [Before responding, I checked the date 
twice to be sure this wasn't from 2002. :)]

Nearly anyone you meet on the street in the US has shopped in a department 
store that uses Struts or drank a cola made by a company that uses Struts. Most 
everyone you will meet will have also received packages shipped by a company 
that uses Struts, or purchased insurance sold by a company that uses Struts.

Not so long ago, there were a lot of "decision-makers" who didn't trust 
computers. Then there were only a few. Today there are almost none. Right now, 
with open source, we are well past "a lot" and nearing "a few". Before long 
time, I'm sure we will reach "almost none".

The lead system architect for one of the world's largest banks told me that he 
uses the "bookstore test". If he can walk into a bookstore and find several 
books on a technology, then he knows it has arrived. Why? Because the 
publishers take their work *very* seriously. They talk directly to people in 
the industry who are making the decisions and using the technology. And, if one 
book doesn't make money, competitors aren't going to print 18 more. :)  If you 
ask publishers, they will tell you that most people don't buy technical books 
because they are curious about a technology, they buy books because they need 
to use a technology.

-Ted.


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