erm I suppose except for gmail that is ... --b
>> My definition of a good web site includes "No Javascript". On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:28:21 -0600, Vic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.opensourcecms.com > I use Drupal. > hth, > .V > > Jim Barrows wrote: > > >On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:49:11 -0500, Erik Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>Jim Barrows wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 06:24:01 -0800 (PST), nitin dubey > >>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>I respectfully disagree with this (unless you guys are talking about > >>some other specific product or framework that I'm not recognizing) so I > >>thought you should hear another opinion. I use Struts and like it, and > >>would even go so far as to say it's the first thing I would consider in > >>many situations, but I wouldn't tell you that you can't build a good Web > >>app without it (or any other framework for that matter). I have built > >> > >> > > > >Building a web app without a pre-built, done ofr you framework? > >It's kind of like the difference between going to the tire store and > >buying a tire, as opposed to sticking a spigot in a rubber tree (or > >however they get rubber these days), and building it yourself. > >Then you get into what happens to those who come after you? The one > >thing I hate doing is trying to figure out someonelses undocumented > >framework. Where do you go for help? Who's responsible for fixing > >it? Where does your client get your expertise if your not available? > >If I'm not writing business specific code, I'm wasting my clients > >money. I use other peoples well known and documented frameworks > >whenever possible. > > > > > > > > > >>some nice Web applications that didn't use any controller framework > >>(other than my own) or even any tags or any JavaScript for that matter. > >> > >> > > > >My definition of a good web site includes "No Javascript". > > > > > > -- > RiA-SoA w/JDNC <http://www.SandraSF.com> forums > - help develop a community > My blog <http://www.sandrasf.com/adminBlog> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- http://www.revoltingdigits.com https://jestate.dev.java.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]