<sarcasm>So, what is your favorite ide?</sarcasm>

I love these debates. 

Some of you guys have some really wacky ideas and to be honest it's
entertaining.

It's a crazy world out their and i'm glad i have all you nutcases to
share it with.

To be honest there are three persistence solutions that I would
currently use out their (in general order of importance)

1) IBatis - cuz databases live longer than applications
2) JDBC- cuz databases live longer than applications
3) Hibernate -- cuz some databases are intrinsicly tied to the
lifespan of the app and i have this perverse side that like
unnecessary complexity.

Thanks for making life interesting,
Brandon



On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 15:19:31 -0500, Rick Reumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nils Liebelt wrote the following on 3/10/2005 3:10 PM:
> 
> > -     You make up your model. I use UML.
> > -     Look for a case tool where you can generate some code. Poseidon is
> > great.
> > -     Put in the your xdoclet tags for the mapping.
> > -     Put in your xdoclet tags for the form beans.
> > -     May be write a couple conversion classes from form beans to
> > businessobjects and from businessobjects to DB.
> > -     Write an Interface for Querying your objects the way you need them.
> >
> > That's it. Straight forward! 28 tables and not a single line of SQL. But it
> > is not about SQL.
> 
> Did you get to create the tables after you made up Model? That's a big
> difference than a huge majority of cases where you don't have that
> luxury of starting from scratch on the DB design. And that big
> difference makes a difference in how easy it is to use you a strict
> object only approach. You can brag about no SQL, but show me that same
> bragging of 'ease' where you have to work on a project where you can't
> start from scratch on the DB model.
> 
> --
> Rick
> 
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