Happy Birthday, Ted. Many more! Both and they are not antithetical or a choice.
Jack On Apr 10, 2005 4:55 AM, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As of about 2a EST this morning, 134,788 messages were posted to this > list. Even for five years, that's a lot of traffic! > > Most of those messages have been about users helping other users. Some > others, often marked "Friday" or "Beer" have been about users > entertaining users. :) And, occasionally, we have waxed introspective > and discussed "What is Struts anyway?". > > Some people have said that Struts is a brand that marks a product. Our > benefactor, the Apache Software Foundation, calls Struts a "Project". > > Project is a good word, but it's really a euphemism: Project is an ASF > code word that means "Community". From an ASF perspective, we're not > here to build software, but to build a development community, and let > the community build the software. We believe that great communities > build great technology. > > Over the years, the Struts community *has* built some great > technology. Aside from the Struts Action package, we've built Tiles > and the Validator. We've built Bean-Utils and the Digester. And > Collections, and File Upload, and Resources. And Chain. A good portion > of all the components in the Jakarta Commons today is technology that > Struts built. > > The technologies that Struts built are not just gizmos we use with our > own controller or taglib components. Dozens of other software > projects, and thousands of teams, use these technologies every day, > whether they use our application framework or not. > > IMHO, this is what it means to be a community rather than a product, a > people rather than a brand. It means that first we try to help each > other, and then we try to package our solution to share with all > comers. But, the map is not the land, and the solution is not the > project. > > Since today is my birthday, I thought I'd take the liberty of calling > for a referendum on a topic that is close to my heart: > > What do you say? Are we a product or a community? > > Here's my +1 for community. > > -Ted. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back." ~Dakota Jack~ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]