Happy Birthday, Ted.  Many more!  Both and they are not antithetical
or a choice.

Jack

On Apr 10, 2005 4:55 AM, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As of about 2a EST this morning, 134,788 messages were posted to this
> list. Even for five years, that's a lot of traffic!
> 
> Most of those messages have been about users helping other users. Some
> others, often marked "Friday" or "Beer" have been about users
> entertaining users. :) And, occasionally, we have waxed introspective
> and discussed "What is Struts anyway?".
> 
> Some people have said that Struts is a brand that marks a product. Our
> benefactor, the Apache Software Foundation, calls Struts a "Project".
> 
> Project is a good word, but it's really a euphemism: Project is an ASF
> code word that means "Community". From an ASF perspective, we're not
> here to build software, but to build a development community, and let
> the community build the software. We believe that great communities
> build great technology.
> 
> Over the years, the Struts community *has* built some great
> technology. Aside from the Struts Action package, we've built Tiles
> and the Validator. We've built Bean-Utils and the Digester. And
> Collections, and File Upload, and Resources. And Chain. A good portion
> of all the components in the Jakarta Commons today is technology that
> Struts built.
> 
> The technologies that Struts built are not just gizmos we use with our
> own controller or taglib components. Dozens of other software
> projects, and thousands of teams, use these technologies every day,
> whether they use our application framework or not.
> 
> IMHO, this is what it means to be a community rather than a product, a
> people rather than a brand. It means that first we try to help each
> other, and then we try to package our solution to share with all
> comers. But, the map is not the land, and the solution is not the
> project.
> 
> Since today is my birthday, I thought I'd take the liberty of calling
> for a referendum on a topic that is close to my heart:
> 
> What do you say? Are we a product or a community?
> 
> Here's my +1 for community.
> 
> -Ted.
> 
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