You lost me Jason... what extra tags are you referring to?  My proposal
specifically didn't require any new tags, only additions to the existing
ones.

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Frank W. Zammetti
Founder and Chief Software Architect
Omnytex Technologies
http://www.omnytex.com

On Mon, April 18, 2005 2:43 pm, Jason King said:
> Frank,
> What do we need extra tags for?  We already have hooks to call
> javascript functions, whether those functions run 100% client-side or
> interact through an xmlhttp object or even through a 1x1 pixel iframe
> should be totally unknown to the individual input elements.
> Frank W. Zammetti wrote:
>
>>You are correct Joe, I made no attempt whatsoever to solve that
>> situation.
>>
>>In short (relatively!), for anyone trying to get a grasp on it, my
>>proposal boils down to this:
>>
>>We have these Struts tags that everyone (except ironically me, most of
>> the
>>time!) uses.  These tags have various event handlers attached to them.
>>These event handlers are client-side Javascript functions that do
>> whatever
>>it is they do.  We also have this AJAX thingamajig, whereby a client
>> calls
>>on a server, gets a response, and, usually, updates just a part of a web
>>page.  Rather than develop a whole new taglib with AJAX at its center
>>(which isn't a bad idea as an aside), why not just modify the existing
>>Struts tags to have some at least minimal AJAX functionality?  But what
>>does that really mean? Simply put, instead of calling some Javascript
>>function on the client in response to, say, the onClick event of a
>> button,
>>we instead call a server-side process, get a response back and update
>> some
>>part of the page. The point here is that you continue to use the existing
>>tags that you know and, presumably!, love... your existing pages don't
>> get
>>broken, you don't have to rewrite anything, but you can now introduce
>> this
>>AJAX stuff as needed without having to write all the details yourself.
>>Further, what if what was provided included a number of "standard"
>>functions that would cover maybe 90% of the situations you might want to
>>use AJAX, like updating the innerHTML of a span?  What if you could send
>>and received XML, or not, at your discretion?  What if the extra cost of
>>all this was an updated JAR, a Struts plug-in, a single new XML
>>configuration file, and an ID added to any form tag you wanted to have
>>this AJAX capability?  That, in a nutshell, is my proposal.
>>
>>I was not seeking to recreate the world in an AJAX image, and I was not
>>trying to cover every possible scenario that could arise.  My goal was to
>>expand what exists and what people use, giving them some extra
>>functionality they didn't have before.  Those that needed more
>> flexibility
>>and power would likely know to look elsewhere, those that had minimal
>>requirements or otherwise didn't have the requisite expertise just yet
>>could stay play with AJAX.
>>
>>I wasn't trying to create a Lexus, just a Yugo :)
>>
>>
>>
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