I liked the smartclient technology very much! It's great! Just wondering if there will be a similar possibility in Java Server Faces? Can I combine the capabilities of JSF and AJAX ?
RR> Jesse Alexander (KBSA 21) wrote the following on 4/19/2005 5:30 AM: >> I also think that a well-designed web-UI does not need JS at all... RR> Sorry to jump on the train late, but the above is completely BS. If you RR> want to use standard HTML, then there will be some things you will HAVE RR> to do with Javascript or else without its use, just the opposite would RR> be true, you'd have a totally CRAPPY-designed UI. RR> I'll give you an example. In quick summary, this application has to have RR> the user select various checkboxes in a tree-list structure and as they RR> select various checkboxes different lines need to change color (turn to RR> gray for example to show that inheritance is implied). Not only that, RR> but based on whether a certain checkbox is selected in a row a date div RR> box needs to become enabled and visible. The bottom line is if you do RR> not use javascript you'd have to go to the server for everything RR> creating a completely unsatisfactory user experience. The users should RR> be able to click all over the place without having to wait for the RR> server to respond each time. Even if you wanted to go to the server for RR> every single possible checkbox click, how could you even do that without RR> some javascript? Tell me how you can design a good UI that does not RR> involve javascript for this application (other than saying use Flash or RR> some other font end presentation). Bottom line is any somewhat complex RR> UI for a company will have to involve the use of some javascript. RR> If you disgree than I'll send screen shots of various internal RR> applications I have to code and you tell me how you can get around not RR> using Javascript? I could just look around on the web and give examples RR> where you'd need javascript. Think of cases where on a form you select RR> one option from a drop down and the other list needs to change. Even if RR> you go to the server to repopulate the other list (which I like to do), RR> it still requires and onChange event on the initial drop down list to RR> fire off the submit. How do you do this without javascript? - create a RR> walk-through UI design? That would be completely unacceptable under a RR> lot of circumstances. -- regards, Sergey mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
