I think I can consider myself lucky that my managers here are fairly switched 
on and buy into my advice on best practices and re-factoring, but I accept this 
is not always the case. With any new projects I certainly build in best 
practices as a matter of course. Once you've done one properly, the cost of 
using frameworks I believe from my own experience has accelerated application 
development and reduced spaghetti code etc... Struts an Tiles has done a 
wonderful job for us so far and we're just about to pull in some Spring to 
handle the DAO side of things which we do in a custom fashion right now.

All the best, Allistair.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Neville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 10 May 2005 11:28
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [OT] Help !! Too many select-box in one page
> 
> 
> Allistair Crossley wrote:
> 
> >unless they see the 1+ minute performance time and you take 
> a hard stance on it and say "well that's what you get when 
> you ask for silly design" ;))
> >
> We still have PowerBuilder apps in production, 1+ minute 
> responses from 
> equally silly forms is regarded as normal.
> Still, it makes the Struts apps look like a good technology choice ;)
> 
> James.
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