Leon, I meant to ask, what does the AW prefix on messages signify?  I've
seen it plenty of times but never really thought to ask until now.

Oh yeah... IDE button-clickers... I HATE THEE!  I have no problem with a
person that uses convenience tools so long as they can do without them.  I
have no problem with using a tool to generate getters and setters for a
bean class, but if you can't do it by hand then you have no business
coding.  I actually know people that have no business coding, sorry as
that is.

-- 
Frank W. Zammetti
Founder and Chief Software Architect
Omnytex Technologies
http://www.omnytex.com

On Wed, June 1, 2005 3:43 pm, Martin Gainty said:
> There is always a cost As Leon pointed IDE button clickers are now called
> Software Engineers
> What happens when a requirement comes along which is not acomodated by
> clicking 2 buttons?
> The entire project comes to an immediate HALT..the child prodigy
> sheepishly
> walks into his bosses office
> and cries he cannot do it since the IDE does not accomodate this
> feature..it
> is time to call the 'dreaded consultant'
> The forgotten rule of Extensibility means that however you build your app
> you must always be able to take on any features and functionality that the
> client may desire
> Always best to Read/update and understand the caveats of the requirements
> doc carefully before pushing *any* limited scoped solution into
> production..
> Those who remember rolling your own customised solution know this is a
> lost
> artform
> Martin-
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Leon Rosenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'Struts Users Mailing List'" <user@struts.apache.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 2:44 PM
> Subject: AW: [OT] Business Layer Ideas
>
>
>>>
>>> One major problem lies with how programmers are educated
>>> today. A lot of schools teach a language or a design
>>> philosophy but rarely are in-depth enough to actually breed
>>> the abstract skills necessary for the programmer to become
>>> useful. It's a shame, really. I went to college in
>>> 1986 (and had been programming since 1978) and within a few
>>> years of my graduation in 1990 the curriculum at most schools
>>> had been watered down to the point of near uselessness.
>>>
>>
>> Well, make a stop... You can't compare things programmed back in the
>> Dark
>> Ages with nowerdays programming.
>> We make far more complicated programms in far less time and for lesser
>> cost.
>>
>> You can critisize overusage of patterns, but under-usage of patterns is
>> clearly at least as bad.
>> Patterns make code understanding simplier, because everyone (should)
>> know
>> them, and
>> simplicity is the goal as many of us stated before.
>> You can't reinvent the wheel each time you write a piece of code, it's
>> simply waste of your time and customers/companies money.
>>
>> Regards
>> Leon
>>
>>
>>
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