Hi guys, I think this lovely discussion is losing focus.
Remember there have been great programmers and programs before any of us was born. Do you think the guys creating e. g. Unix had Emacs or an IDE ? And we (well, some of us) today are great programmers using better tools. It is the (wo)man, not the tool. Martin BTW: quiche is absolutely marvelous!!! Want a recipe? > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 29. Juni 2005 22:12 > An: Struts Users Mailing List > Betreff: RE: [OT] Stinking IDEs > > > Yan, > > Us "old" guys still know a quiche-eater like you when we see one: > > http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/real.programmers.html > > http://www.multicians.org/thvv/realprogs.html > > If you can't debug with Lint, get the hell off the keyboard. > > ~mark > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Galbreath > Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:06 PM > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Subject: [OT] Stinking IDEs > > > I have noticed over the years that those who are the most > adamant about the virtues of IDEs are the worst > programmers...and think emacs is a kid's meal from McDonalds. > > ~mark > > -----Original Message----- > From: Yan Hu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 1:33 PM > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Subject: Re: Is there any Jsp template like Smarty template ? > > > > > > http://uab.blogspot.com/2005/06/ides-we-dont-need-no-stinking-ides.h > > > tml > > It is the most stupid blog I have ever seen. Go back to the > cave where you belong to. Maybe we should ask MS guys to use > vi and Emacs too. Why do some people call them "real > programmers" just because they do not like IDEs? Why 85% of > the Java developers use Eclipse? You think they are all > wrong and you are right? You should be thankful since > Eclipse is such a good IDE and it is free. Haa. I know when > you get too old, you tend to hate anything new due to > uncertainty that the new technologies might bring to > you........ Hey that is understable that you might still want > to use Cobol or even assembly.. Why do you want to program in > java anyway? You could do a lot > more(control) using assembly than Java as you could program > in the stinking text editors such as vi and Emacs. 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