...just trying to keep the conversation lively. ;-) ~mark
On 6/30/05, M. Bitner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 6/30/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sheesh man, I'm not calling for a ban on anyone, but give Niall a break. > > Niall is one of the most helpful people I've ever met online. Mark comes in > > here and says "Struts is dead" and calls everyone faggots, etc., ad > > nauseum. He might behave that way on many lists, but all of us who don't > > know him don't know that, and we're not used to it. It doesn't bother me > > what people say in general, but if it bothers Niall, and Joe, then suddenly > > it bothers me too. These guys work too hard -- for us (at least partially > > for us). This list is supposed to be about volunteering -- providing > > support for Struts. If I was a new user and I walked into this list > > yesterday, I'd be saying to myself, how can Struts really be any good (or > > worth it) if this is what it's like to hang out in the community? The > > committers don't deserve that. It's just a matter of showing respect for > > others. I wouldn't come into your house and purposely grind mud into your > > carpet. This is not the Internet at-large, this is the Apache Struts-user > > list. > > > > Independent thought and trolling aren't the same in my opinion. I'm still > > not for a ban on anyone, but if the committers (who do all the work) are > > bothered, whose side are you on? How sucky would this list *really* be if > > those guys (and all the other guys and gals who volunteer help every day) > > went away, and left us with nothing but a mail version of IRC? > > > > Erik > > > > +1 what he said. :) > > There is a difference between expressing conflicting viewpoints, > infantile behavior, and generally being offensive. If one person's > behavior is offensive enough to drive people away then that hurts the > Struts community rather than helps it and I would expect the > committers to try and fix the problem. > > FWIW, I do find Mark's posts to have little redeeming value and would > prefer not to be inflicted with them. > > Melissa > (longtime lurker, infrequent poster) > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]