There are people who are taking things way too serious around here. They fall into two groups. #1 The easily offended #2 The lude and discourteous. What is funny is often they are one and the same.
My comments have been very light hearted and not intended to offend. If folks take the lighter comments to heart then they need to relax. If you have people who are being clearly lude, then we should ignore them (advice i need to take). At the same time, what community doesn't have light hearted jest. To take offense at silly jokes about H1Bs or to go off in a serious rage on an H1B is silly. Both sides need to take a breath. People, please, lighten up, lose the profane language and serious hateful attitudes. We are all here to participate in the Struts community. That doesn't mean we have to be stuffy. But, it does mean that we should have an edge of courtesy. For now I'll refrain from engaging in any off-topic discussions. I hope that people can take it down a notch and relax, then, maybe, we can learn struts, have some fun and still be a friendly community. Brandon On 7/8/05, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7/8/05, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Andrew, you must be new here. See, on Fridays (usually), we like to cut up > > and have a little fun. I think I've donated enough blood on this list to > > deserve a break every now and then. > > And perhaps its time to reign in the freedom to cut up a little on > Fridays. With freedom comes responsibility, and there's been way too > many abuses of that freedom lately (including this thread). > > > If you don't like wasting time with [OT] posts, filter them. Every decent > > mail client will allow you to do that. > > Note that filtering is not a complete answer. Consider a scenario > where you are subscribed to a list like this from your company email > address, where you have (explicitly or implicitly) agreed to whatever > terms of use your company's IT department imposes on you. In more > than a few companies, incoming email messages are scanned for > inappropriate content -- and you could be violating the policies even > if you have a personal filter set up so that *you* don't have to read > the messages. "But I didn't read it" isn't going to be a very useful > defense -- any more than if your mom caught you reading Playboy when > growing up, and you tried "but I didn't look at the pictures, I was > only reading the articles!" > > I'd like to point you at a blog written recently by an industry > colleague, who has been observing what's going on here: > > http://www.groundside.com/blog/content/DuncanMills/J2EE%20Development/2005/07/08/Respect.html > > Even though Duncan works for a company that competes with my employer, > and builds a tool that is competitive with the one I work on, I still > consider him a friend, like many things about his product, and > collaborate with him where possible to improve the overall state of > the industry. I wholeheartedly subscribe to his comments about > respect, and would like to see a return to the way that the Struts > user list worked (nearly all of the time) until fairly recently -- > where respect was the norm. Today it is not ... and even in jest many > of the comments are innappropriate and embarrasing (to the rest of the > community, for having to be associated with it). > > If you're only here for the Friday [OT] humor, then I suggest you find > a different place to cut loose. The purpose of this list is to answer > user questions about Struts and all its related technologies -- and > you'll sure like how you look on a Google search ten years from now > for your name if you've posted like a mature adult instead of an > immature 8-year-old. > > Craig McClanahan > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
