Hi;

I'm still a newbie to JSF so take this with a grain of salt. JSF is a lot
like the Mac - you have to do things it's way but if you can fit within it's
paradigm, it works very very well.

- dave


David Thielen
303-499-2544
www.windwardreports.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 4:38 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: [OT] What to choose: Struts, JSF, Shale or Spring

A good starting point would be Mastering JavaServer Faces, which does
a good job of comparing Struts, JSF, and Swing in the context of
introducing JSF.

*
http://opensource.atlassian.com/confluence/oss/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=
278

My favorite book for Struts newbies is Struts for Dummies 

*
http://opensource.atlassian.com/confluence/oss/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=
278

Pro Spring has some nice chapters on Hibernate and iBATIS, as well as
excellent coverage of both Spring and Spring MVC.

* http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1590594614/apachesoftwar-20/

Pro Sping is a huge book, but you don't have to read it all. :)

After that, my advice would be to design a test workflow of your own
that represents some miniscule piece of your application. Maybe a
single find/list/view/edit workflow for the simplest entity you are
likely to have, and try implementing it with the likely suspects.

If your project hasn't selected a source repository, Subversion is
about the best there is :)

*
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0131855182/apachesoftwar-20/

And, just to round things out, my favorite IDEs are still by JetBrains 

* http://www.jetbrains.com/

HTH, Ted.

On 8/4/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Gurus,
> 
> Sorry for the OT.
> I have been working on jsp/servlets for a last four years to create web
pages.  Now that I have found out there is more out there, I am in a
dilemma.  Which one should I learn and why?  I have a big web project coming
up and was wondering which of these I should choose to work on.  This
project needs good validation and object relational or sql mapping
(hibernate or ibatis).  If you have any books or site links to name, please
let me know.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Bob

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