From: "Woodchuck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

the way JSTL exists right now does not help alleviate the confusion
imho.  please correct me if i'm wrong but for example, if you go to
Sun's official page about JSTL (http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/jstl),
you can find tutorials that dive right into JSTL, and also download API
docs for JSTL.  but nowhere can you find the actual TLD files (nor the
standard.jar or jstl.jar) for download.

This is what Niall was trying to clarify about my post. :) What we call "JSTL" is really the JavaServer Pages Standard Tag Library Specification. There is a Reference Implementation available from Sun at the bottom of http://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/final/jsr052/ (linked to from the URL you posted above).

yet, the Jakarta project seems to be the 'keeper' of JSTL, since the
files required to use JSTL are found in the Struts and Standard Taglib
distributions.

Jakarta has another implementation of the spec, called "Jakarta Standard Taglib". (One implementation for each version of the JSTL spec.) And that (the 1.0 verson) is what Struts distributes with Struts-EL.

If I got all my acronyms straight, hopefully that clears things up somewhat. :)

--
Wendy Smoak


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