Leon, JSF is component structured but the default renderer is JSP, which doesn't really have templating out of the box. That's why we know of a few projects that fill the need. Tiles (Standalone from the upcoming version 1.3 build) was ported to fill that need while Clay (part of 'Struts Shale' http://struts.apache.org/shale) and Facelets (https://facelets.dev.java.net) were created to fill that need.
Regards, David -----Original Message----- From: Leon Rosenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 10:34 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [Shale]Newbie question On 10/4/05, Greg Reddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Oct 4, 2005, at 3:55 AM, Leon Rosenberg wrote: > > > > That's another interesting question, if JSF is all-component, what do > > I need tiles for? I mean Tiles was cool to define a common renderer > > for an abstract view-component which was then implicitely defined with > > struts-classic. Now JSF supports component-rendering which should make > > Tiles obsolete. What would I need Tiles for then? Or do I miss > > something (as usual)? :-) > > In my limited experience with JSF it does not seem to contain > templating capabilities. So in Struts classic I would use Tiles for > creating site templates as well as reusable views (or component-based > views). But with JSF Tiles still proves useful for templating and > for further breaking up view components into smaller reusable > pieces. But, honestly, I have yet to use the two together simply > because I haven't built a real app on JSF yet. So much of my view is > based on conceptual thinking and not real world experience. Maybe I'm misunderstanding the concept completely, but I thought JSF goal would be to create a component structure (tree) which allows itself to be rendered with a special rendering kit to anything. So in case I have template-able html (or whatever) code, I define a new component, which manages exactly this piece of resulting code and provide a renderer for it. What am i getting false? > > Greg Leon --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
