Frank W. Zammetti wrote:

> So no, I don't think Ajax is the great savior or anything, nor is it the
> future of web development in and of itself.  How I think it will be
> remembered though is in showing that RIAs are viable and that the real
> paradigm shift isn't Ajax itself, but is the underlying architectures it
> fosters, the new way of thinking about web-based applications.
> 
As you said the Ajax stuff is pretty old, the idea that you can do the
same with invisible java applets is even older (Microsoft probably got
the idea from java applet apis, almost nobody used applets that way however)

I think the biggest push will come from real rich client techs, which
already exist, how many years for has XUL existed? Very long.
Also OpenLazlo (which is an impressive demo on what you can do with flash).

But both of them have
not really taken off, it will probably take another non anything
standard compliant clone from Microsoft which is in the works for
Longhorn and lots of Marketing droids that stuff like that will pull off.

In the end internet application programming sort of is a step back of at
least 20-25 years programmingwise, rich client apis and libraries have
been further along in the 80s than internet programming with its refresh
cycle stuff currently is, internet programming resembles more VT
terminal like programming than it does rich client one, which it should
JSF helps to some extend, and believe me the programming model for
people who are used to more comfortable rich client programming
is rather easy to grasp, both in terms and mechanism, but it does not
solve the problem per se which is html related and that html never
was thought of being used that way. And now with one dominant browser
maker refusing to add anything to its half broken browser because it
would threaten its desktop monopoly the train has left the station and
only a trainwaggon will come back from time to time.

And no, Ajax is not the cure to that although every journalist who only
has slightly heard of it, now markets it as the next big thing which
enables full rich client apps, which it only does to some degree until
you run into inherent javascript performance issues and browser issues.
It helps to ease the symptoms but it does not cure the cause.

Werner


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