I would highly suggest you look at Spring and its web framework. You may
find that in the long run the .NET apps and the JSF apps are a false time
saving. This will be particularly clear when your engineers have become tool
jockeys who spend a lot of their work time finding new iTunes don't know how
to fix something when it is broken. I recommend you just peruse this list
for names that support JSF and ask yourself if you can live with that bunch
for long. Remember too that these are the experts.



On 11/9/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I realize that this is not the most unbiased group : ) but it seems to be
> a very sensible and well behaved (no nasty name calling like you find on
> some other groups). So I'm hoping not to get beat up when I ask this.
>
> We have been using Struts for about 4 years now and we've never updated..
> Don't ask why!
>
> Anyway, now we're moving to a new J2EE development environment and trying
> to decide how to build apps going forward Struts is the logical choice
> because we know it. However, one of the big issues we have with Struts
> right now is that it still involves a lot of things to be done "by hand".
> I
> don't mind but management keeps coming back at us with "how come the .NET
> group can crank out the webapps so much faster? Why do you have to build
> all these common components? Why does it take so long? blah, blah, blah"
>
> I know that part of the problem is that we're on such an old version of
> Struts. I also know that there are a ton of Java (Struts, JSF, Spring,
> Turbine, Tapestry, Cocoon, ) frameworks and tools out there. Since this is
> a good time to make a change (upgrade or switch) I want to make sure we
> don't make the wrong choice. But I'm feeling a little overwhelmed with
> everything out there. How does one pick? Once you commit to one it's not
> easy to change.
>
> I know some will come back with "it depends on your situation and
> experience" I understand that. Obviously, Struts has an advantage because
> our are comfortable with it.
>
> I'm sure there are tools that make development (especially the Visual part
> of the MVC) quicker in java but I am having a hard time sifting thru
> everything to find them
>
> Has anyone seen any good comprehensive reviews/investigations of the
> various frameworks?
>
> Anyhelp would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Sorry for the long rambling message.
>
> David
>
>
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