was using it for effect. I was trying to be over the top.

Apparently both of you missed the sarcasm.

Preston

Also educated in a blue state, whatever that means.

> You said "nefarious".  That is a strawman.  I said I don't disparage
> Craig,
> and I don't.  Let me make it clear that so far as I know Craig is a decent
> and honorable man.  This is about principle, not about personalities.  I
> cannot stand the President's policies and priorities as I don't like
> Craig's, but I think the President is a good and honorable man.
>
> Let me say do say in your favor, Sean, that you certainly used to show
> huge
> restraint of pen and tongue, since you did not comment on the Struts lists
> for three years after your recently disclosed active involvement.
>
> On 12/16/05, Preston Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > I have never had a concern about the "umbrella" idea, which is the
>> latest
>> > description of what is happening.  I would in fact encourage that and
>> > cannot
>> > see any problem with it.  However, I pay more attention to people's
>> feet
>> > than their lips.  "Is Shale the Next Struts?" is the feet.  The
>> community
>> > is
>> > not served by the whole panoply of things similar to that which have
>> been
>> > fast and furious over the year plus.  If there were a consistent
>> message
>> > and
>> > this change of tune when addressing the "outer world" was not the
>> norm,
>> > then
>> > I would have no qualms.  However, with the data and the facts the way
>> they
>> > are, I think it is naive to expect that Craig really is interested in
>> > community.  I do not disparage Craig in saying that.  He doesn't have
>> to
>> > be
>> > interested in anything.  I just don't feel like being an unwitting
>> toady.
>>
>> ?????
>>
>> Craig is so nefarious...... Good thing you're not unwitting... that
>> you're
>> on your guard.
>>
>> Craig has been helping people on the Struts list for years. I first
>> adopted and learned Struts when it was beta. Pre version 1.0. And he was
>> helpful then and pure of intentions. Why wouldn't he be now?
>>
>> Preston
>>
>>
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