On 1/12/06, Werner Punz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Alexandre Poitras wrote:
> > I agree with you Michael since our designer is a big fan of Zen Garden
> > and I must say I don't miss working with tables :) I would like a
> > strict XHTML rendererkit but I must say that at least the JSF standard
> > components don't produce garbage . What I am doing right now is
> > developping new renderers for the components I need, it doesn't take a
> > big effort anyway. Maybe I can regroup those renderer in a rendererkit
> > once I have several renderers done. But it's the main weakness of a
> Hint, you could donate it to myfaces ;-)

Of course,  when I have a couple of them done. But someone is probably
going to beat me to the line. Apache development is so fast, probably
because it regroups so many smart people.

> > component approach, having to deal with the generation of markup that
> > maybe you don't like. But at least in JSF the renderer is separated
> > from the UI component.
> >
> yes one big plus of myfaces is this separation, it is one of the points
> which makes the component programming really awkward at the first sight
> (the other one being the taglib docking code), but it is not like
> you develop components every day, due to the fact there already are so
> many of them.
> This separation in the first place between taglib code, view logic and
> controller logic on component level with xml as binding in between is
> awkward, but if you need special cases then it is rather "easy" to
> adjust those to your needs without breaking existing code.
>
> The component api definitely at first sight is hell to program for in
> JSF, but for easy on program componentization there already are easier
> solutions like shale clay, facelets, aliasbeans etc...
> but in the end it pays off if you need special cases like this one.
>
> (Hint the component api itself is one of the major gripes I still have
> with JSF, it only can become better)
>
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