<snip> On 3/14/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > For us, it's not about branding or marketshare or any of that. It's > about volunteer share. It's about which products that we, as > engineeers, want to use to build our own applications.
</snip> Of course JSF is at Struts because of marketing and branding. Get real!. At least Craig admits that. Why else would Shale be at Struts? That was the point of the Rod Johnson attributions, which I am sure Craig not only knew the source but had the sentences virtually memorized. He is, as he says, not fond of hearing them. I can understand that. But to make it a question of attribution is laughable. For my part, I have to disagree with Frank. JSF has been around forever and has no discernable traction. Perhaps that is the reason Craig is a little testy nowadays. I don't know about that. -- "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back." ~Dakota Jack~