Craig McClanahan wrote:
Please try these opinions out on the MyFaces crowd :-).
Like I said in another post, there are certainly those that believe that
JSF is, to steal DJ's quote, the cat's meow. The MyFaces crowd would
clearly fall in that category :)
> In case you didn't
know, that is an *Apache* project to produce an *Apache licensed*
implementation of JSF, along with some cool components that conform to the
spec.
I *was* aware of that, and frankly I like some of the Tomahawk
components quite a bit. Those, along with ADF as you mention below,
make JSF a lot more interesting for someone like me who, *at best*, is
on the fence.
> Popularity is growing like wildfire -- and that was already true even
before the ADF Faces contribution that recently entered the Apache
Incubator.
Growing like wildfire? Hmm... well, I'm certainly not intimately
familiar with that community, so I can't argue that point.
However, if your extrapolating the overall opinion of JSF from that of a
single community, I would say that may not be a good extrapolation. It
certainly would not match the opinion I get from the "community" of
contacts I have personally talked to... then again, *I* would be
extrapolating a larger opinion from a single community, so I'd be doing
no better :) I *have* done just that though, so I'm not about to hammer
you for doing the same :)
Last time I looked, MyFaces has more active committers than Struts does
(action framework and Shale folks combined), and *lots* more commit
activity, if that is your criteria for success. (In case you are wondering,
it's not mine).
Honestly, I'm not completely sure what my criteria is :) Commit
activity and number of committers certainly indicates a healthy
community around a given project, and I would say that factors into it
somewhere.
You know, at the risk of being labeled an enemy combatant - LOL - I have
to say that I think DJ has made one point over and over that I think is
reasonable: JSF is not new, it's been around, in Internet time, forever.
Yet, it only now seems to be gaining any sort of momentum in the
larger sense. I can't think of a single other similar technology that
mimics that. That may just make it unique of course, or it may say
something else about it. I'm not sure.
But, where DJ and I part ways is that he seems to believe that's the way
it always will be, and I do not. However I may feel about JSF now, I
recognize that I may have a very different opinion of it a year from
now, and I'm willing to continue evaluating it and allowing my opinion
to change as I see it warranted.
Craig
Frank
(Hope your jet lag isn't too bad Craig! :) )
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