Essentially your own citations support everything i have been saying, oddly
enough.  Read your citation http://websphere.sys-con.com/read/46516.htm .
It is excellent.



On 3/20/06, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Here is more information Dakota :
> http://www.phpwact.org/pattern/model_view_controller
>
> "Because the popular MVC framework Struts implements a combined Front
> Controller and Application Controller, some people assume that this is
> what is meant by the MVC pattern in the context of a web application.
> For the same reason, many descriptions of the Front Controller pattern
> on the web do not draw the distinction between a Front Controller and
> a Application Controller."
>
>
>
> On 3/20/06, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Jonathan Revusky wrote:
> > > A third point that I must make in this context is that, though, in the
> > > above, I am criticizing the "electoral democracy" aspects of this, I
> > > actually don't subscribe to the idea that an open source project is a
> > > one man-one vote democracy of any sort anyway. For example, in the
> > > FreeMarker project, the opinion of somebody who has made some tiny
> > > contribution to the code (and is thus a "committer") cannot be
> > > considered equal to mine, when simply most of the current core code
> base
> > > was written by me. And thus, the idea that this person's vote is equal
> > > to mine strikes me as absurd. It would be equally absurd if I joined
> > > another project, and after making a nominal contribution, considered
> > > that my vote was equal to that of someone who had written, say, 80% of
> > > the code.
> >
> > You might be interested in the bylaws I wrote for Java Web Parts:
> >
> > http://sourceforge.net/docman/?group_id=140728
> >
> > Most importantly in the context of this discussion is the fact that
> > ANYONE who contributes AT ALL can vote and HAVE THEIR VOTE COUNT.
> > Non-contributors can vote too, but are non-binding (I am considering
> > changing this).
> >
> > I have a weighting system for how peoples' votes count... "contributors"
> > count as 1, "developers" (aka committers) count as 1.5 and
> > "administrators" (aka the PMC) count as 2.  The only requirement is that
> > a person be subscribed to the mailing list, since all voting takes place
> > there.  There is a formula used to calculate the final result of a vote,
> > and simple majority carries the vote.
> >
> > By the way, the definition of "contributor" is "anyone that contributes
> > to JWP".  I probably should refine that definition a bit :)  But, the
> > point is that I wanted it to be a very low barrier of entry, so even if
> > you just point out a batch of spelling errors in the documentation, you
> > would be considered a contributor and get a counted vote.
> >
> > I bet some of the people on the contributors list don't even know they
> > have a vote! :)  In truth though, we have yet to have an actual vote on
> > anything, so I suppose it's all untested.
> >
> > The voting system is perhaps a bit convoluted, but I tried to write it
> > in such a way that no one person, INCLUDING ME, could grab control of
> > the project.  There is also veto power on all votes, and more
> > importantly, an override provision... for instance, while I as an
> > Administrator can veto any vote, either of the other two developers can
> > call for an override vote.  I of course cannot vote in the override
> > vote, and if my veto is overridden, that's the final word, I cannot
> > override the veto.
> >
> > I have no doubt there are flaws in my system, but my goal was to give
> > everyone a voice, and to ensure that the will of the majority would be
> > done no matter what.
> >
> > Frank
> >
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> > Omnytex Technologies
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