Dave Newton wrote:
Jonathan Revusky wrote:
Paul really seemed to see moral equivalence between me and the people
engaging in the vicious attacks -- consider James Mitchell, who was
posting a private message in public in order to fan the flames.
Or in order to point out what an ass you really are or how you conduct
yourself when you believe nobody's watching.
So, let me get this straight, Dave. Do you think that the above (in this
case a private email I wrote to James Mitchell) is remotely of interest
or on-topic to this mailing list?
And please, I request that you not answer the above question with some
other question or distraction or whatever. Please just stay focused a
sec and answer that question:
Was it IYO appropriate for him to post that here? (You might consider
also that James Mitchell is on the Struts Project Management Committee.)
(This is a place where people are terrified to express disagreement.
They even openly speculate that there will be retaliation against
their careers and so on. This scene is seriously FUBAR!)
Wow, I have _zero_ fear of expressing disagreement here, and I don't
think too many other people are "terrified" either.
In closing, Larry, who are you to be telling me that I should be doing
this, that or the other thing?
Same person you are to be telling me and others here that we should be
doing this, that, or the other thing, I guess!
Well, you've so aggressively snipped above that you are not addressing
the argument.My original argument is not visible in the remaining quoted
text. I was saying that, by making criticisms, by availing themselves of
their right to free speech, people are not generally incurring an
obligation to fix whatever it is themselves.
In your post I am replying to here, you just seem to tacitly assume that
my behavior (even off-list!!!) is an appropriate topic of discussion
here. I mean, let's suppose we debate this issue and resolve that, yes,
I am a terrible person. How would this further anything for the Struts
community? Meanwhile, the basic question of why Struts development
stagnated is supposedly off-topic and illegitimate.
Jonathan Revusky
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lead developer, FreeMarker project, http://freemarker.org/
Dave
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