Larry Meadors wrote:
What I am saying is that people need to put up or shut up.

Larry, I already refuted this "complex" argument of yours in my post entitled "Debate and Free Speech 101".

I pointed out that criticizing U.S. policy in Iraq does not obligate the person criticizing to go to Iraq himself and resolve the problems.

It is also silly to suggest that when the Struts 1.x codebase has become so technically obsolescent that the Struts developers themselves don't want to work on it, that I should do so.

The question of why development on that codebase stagnated is quite appropriate. If you don't care or don't have an opinion on that topic, then just don't participate in the discussion, but don't tell other people what to do.


I am sorry if that complex logic evaded you.

It's not complex logic evading anybody. It's simply that you are trotting out a logical fallacy.

In any case, as regards telling _me_ to "put up or shut up", you are talking to somebody who has made significant contributions to this application space.

To the best of my knowledge, you have made no comparable contributions. This really takes a lot of gall on your part.

Jonathan Revusky
--
lead developer, FreeMarker project, http://freemarker.org/


Perhaps you need to take the meds that those nice people in white
suits gave you.

:-)

Larry


On 3/28/06, Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Dreary Morals, you are simply incoherent.  Do you recognize at all that your
points have no logic or sense to them?  Don't you care if they are logical?




On 3/28/06, Larry Meadors <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

LOL, Jon, do you read your own posts?

On 3/28/06, Jonathan Revusky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Do keep your eye on the ball, Paul. These people have had every chance
to respond to my points via legitimate debate and they chose not to.

OK, so what you are saying here is that "these people" could have
debated with you, but instead chose not to...but of course you only
say this after a personal attack.


And then they start this stuff. Yet you are trying to extract some kind
of moral equivalence out of this.

...then follow it with another...


Well, maybe you got ruined by being exposed to too much moral relativism
and other sophistry in college.

...and another.

This is my last post on this thread, before returning home from bizzarro
world.

I see two courses of action for you Jon:

If you think struts is so bad that it is unfixable, then find
something else. Leave us all here to wallow in our ambivalent
ignorance. Then, if you are right, when and if we ever get as smart as
you are and realize that struts is dead, you can charge us all for
training on the Next Big Thing.

If you think struts is bad, but that it is fixable, then do something
about it. Check it out of SVN, fix it, and use it. If you are so darn
smart, we will all be begging to use it in no time. ...and again, you
can charge us all for training on that Next Big Thing.

But in either case, stop being such a buttmonkey (if you can).

Larry

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