Leon, It sounds like Java is a stronger language in Europe versus .net. You mentioned that not everything is struts, a question: in your estimation what is java being mostly used for in europe ? And what about C ? Thanks. Joao coelho
-----Original Message----- From: Leon Rosenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 1:35 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Drag-and-drop struts-aware IDE? the situation seems to be completely different whereever you are. here in europe, especially in germany, .net has probably same market shares as perl :-) And if you count open positions, there are maybe 1:10 for .net against java. Not everything is struts however. regards Leon On 10/25/06, Ed Griebel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, this is the "issue" with Struts, it's hard for an OSS product to > compete with the .Net marketing juggernaut. MS seems to be happy > trotting out their dog-and-pony show to anyone who will look at it. > The source control, code checking, etc. components in Eclipse match > closely to what VisualStudio has, just not out of the box > unfortunately, and there's nobody going around giving demos of Struts > + Eclipse, at least not for free. > > -ed > > On 10/25/06, Bruno Melloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Probably because managers are always looking for the famous "silver > > bullet" that will allow them to use untrained developers in half the > > time... Yes, it is a dream, but it is the dream being sold by > > Micro$oft for .NET, and showing a tool that does it for Struts is > > the first step to avoid the miriad of problems caused by using .NET and Visual Studio. > > The "lesser of two evils" and all that. > > > > Anyway, the Exadel Studio mentioned by Juan looks promising. It > > seems to allow drag-and-drop layout while preserving the basic coding model. > > > > bruno > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Leon Rosenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 6:43 AM > > To: Struts Users Mailing List > > Subject: Re: Drag-and-drop struts-aware IDE? > > > > <snip...> > > > > I'm. Drag and Drop may save you some time at the beginning and will > > cost you thrice the time later. > > Why are people so hot for drag and drop and are ignoring the > > evidence that it never works? > > > > regards > > Leon > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
