I have to agree. Having a separate Struts 2 list would be nice, but let's face it...
- Struts 1 "owned" the web presentation space, making the move from 1.x to 1.y brainless. - But since Struts 2 is a complete rewrite and JSF is competing strongly for the same space (with much help from the tool vendors), the choice to go to from Struts 1 to 2 is not easy for today's developers. Struts 2 - regardless of how much better it is - needs all the help it can get to establish itself in the minds of developers. The price we pay by slogging through 100 emails per day in a single list is small if it helps Struts 2 win the battle. Bruno -----Original Message----- From: Frank W. Zammetti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 7:59 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Can we *please* havea seperate Struts *2* - User list? I think the thought behind not splitting the lists to this point is that Apache experience has been that it tends to divide a community rather than direct traffic in a more granular way. The idea is that a Struts user is a Struts user regardless of version, and those that may not be using S2 today (yours truly included for the most part) may well be using it tomorrow... a person can get a leg-up just by keeping an eye on the S2 posts (I know that's true for me). One could always subscribe to multiple lists of course, but in terms of community, a single united list theoretically at least yields more synergy. This is my interpretation of things I've seen stated in the past (I happen to agree with it too :) ). Maybe the thinking is different now by those who are in a position to change things, I don't know. As for a forum, I seem to remember Apache infrastructure not supporting it, and I also seem to remember something about Apache projects not (directly at least) using outside resources... others more knowledgeable than I would have to answer this though... I can't off the top of my head think of any other Apache project that has a forum that is officially linked to the project. As a personal opinion, I'm not sure I see the benefit of a forum vs. a mailing list, they seem pretty well even to me, maybe a slight edge to the mailing list since it goes to my mail client... I could see a good argument though for a forum that supplies an RSS feed too. Frank Antony Stubbs wrote: > Well it might have made sense if struts 2 issues were somehow > applicable to struts 1, but they're mostly not. > > For Struts 2 to be adopted, it needs to be clearly separated from > struts 1, as is the code base. This includes having clearly separate > support to make it as easy as possible to find help. It's not like > it's we want a struts 1.5 list. 2 is very different from 1. > > What's the mentality for keeping them jumbled together? > > I suppose you don't see a separate mailing list for every major > tapestry release, but this is a case of adopting the best process that > fit's the situation, and in this situation the lists should be seperate IMO. > > > Dave Newton-4 wrote: >> --- Antony Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> This list seems to be quite busy, and I think everyone would benefit >>> hugely from separating out >> the >>> two frameworks for obvious reasons. Actually I'm surprised this >>> hasn't been done already. >> It's been brought up (even by me) in the past; I still agree and >> would vote for separation if it was votable. >> >> d. >> >> >> >> >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> _______________ >> Finding fabulous fares is fun. >> Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight >> and hotel bargains. >> http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> > -- Frank W. Zammetti Founder and Chief Software Architect Omnytex Technologies http://www.omnytex.com AIM/Yahoo: fzammetti MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Author of "Practical Ajax Projects With Java Technology" (2006, Apress, ISBN 1-59059-695-1) Java Web Parts - http://javawebparts.sourceforge.net Supplying the wheel, so you don't have to reinvent it! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
