Tom Schneider wrote:
Both of those plugins, by default, would need the session to keep track of
the state.

Oh, duh.  I didn't see that he wanted to avoid the session.

What is up with that BTW? There seem to be quite a few posts lately from people wanting to do stuff and avoid the http session (or its struts2 wrapper).

What's wrong with the session?

Yah, you gotta be careful with it...

* gotta be careful about memory consumption
* hibernate objects get detached from their hibernate sessions
* non-serializable objects eliminate session-save-across-restart functionality in tomcat

... but if you use it sanely, it's an awesome tool. And it's a good base upon which you can implement more granular scopes (as the scopes plug-in does and as WebFlow allows the option for).

Did the session become evil somewhere along the way?  Did I miss a memo?

- Gary

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