I think a web page generator from action/model would be a huge shot in the
arm.  Of course it would need to be gussied up a bit, but doing these by
hand is a leach on time.  I recall a product back in the day that would
generate pages from db tables.  Perhaps it's now open source and could be
leveraged?  And then there is the persistence nightmare -- but I have found
Db4o solves that problem quite nicely.

Scott

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 7:07 AM, Al Sutton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Web Design :). I can code it in a few days, but getting it to look pretty
> so that users don't complain, thats a b**ch.
>
> Seriously though, one of the things we could do is a something link Suns
> blueprints or a cookbook of code recepies where we have pages which show and
> explain the code solutions to common problems.
>
> I know there are some bits and bobs around, and there are some sample
> webapps, but it would be nice to have thinks like the  the
> S2/Spring2/JPA/Ajax page at
> http://struts.apache.org/2.0.11.1/docs/struts-2-spring-2-jpa-ajax.html in
> one place along with some others.
>
> Al.
>
>
> Ted Husted wrote:
>
>> Since it's friday, let me pose a question to the group ...
>>
>> Even with rock-solid frameworks like Apache Struts, it still seems
>> like web application development takes longer than it should. Some
>> frameworks, like Ruby on Rails, speak directly to "time to market"
>> concerns and have been gathering many followers.
>>
>> But why does web application still seem so difficult or so
>> time-consuming? Are there time bandits that still suck days or weeks
>> out of your development schedule? Are there time gremlins that
>> "nickel-and-dime" you every hour of every day? Is there anything more
>> that frameworks like Apache Struts can do to help? Or are just there
>> intractable problems with web development itself?
>>
>> Thoughts? :)
>>
>> -Ted.
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