S2 is awesome by the way it modularises the things. 

But to me writing a valid ognl in jsp,validation layer, using value stack
and debugging it is extremely difficult. The only way i do it is re-jaring,
redeploying and restarting the tomcat. Moreover most of the times i do'nt
understand why things are failing?

Tiles is one more thing, i am not clear when i should use getAsString and
when the others. Some times some way works out. 

Even today in some expressions scriplets are allowed while in some thing
else they are not allowed (like Map[<%= %>]) doesnt work. I dont see any
exception saying why and what went wrong.

In conversions: for example i can put data into a HashMap<String> but i cant
do it into Dto.someObject.HashMap object... why??? When ever i get such
issus i turn to struts showcase trying to hackit and get my work.. but in
this case it doesnt work.

Writing Freemarker: to be frank i didnt invest good amount of time for it
but AFAIK theres only a freemarker site which can help you. 

MOreover it would be nice if we can have an visual IDE using which i will
drag drop things, jsps, actions, interceptors etc (agreed that this doesnt
fall into struts domain.. but its nice to have feature which can
exponentially decrease the dev time :)

Thats my view on this application.

cheers,
ravi 


Ted Husted wrote:
> 
> Since it's friday, let me pose a question to the group ...
> 
> Even with rock-solid frameworks like Apache Struts, it still seems
> like web application development takes longer than it should. Some
> frameworks, like Ruby on Rails, speak directly to "time to market"
> concerns and have been gathering many followers.
> 
> But why does web application still seem so difficult or so
> time-consuming? Are there time bandits that still suck days or weeks
> out of your development schedule? Are there time gremlins that
> "nickel-and-dime" you every hour of every day? Is there anything more
> that frameworks like Apache Struts can do to help? Or are just there
> intractable problems with web development itself?
> 
> Thoughts? :)
> 
> -Ted.
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