Who uses FTP anymore ?

You'd be amazed -- and very afraid.  8^)

JRJ

-----Original Message-----
From: Kim Horn [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 12:27 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Can VFS SFTP Passwords be encrypted


No this is SFTP. Not clear text :-) Sorry just use FTP now days to mean
SFTP.
Who uses FTP anymore ?



-----Original Message-----
From: Jaeger, Jay - DOT [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, 3 April 2009 12:26 AM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: Can VFS SFTP Passwords be encrypted

I find the notion of going to great lengths to protect FTP passwords
aside from reasonable precautions like good ACLs to prevent widespread
access to the files somewhat "amusing" given the fact that FTP sends its
passwords in CLEAR TEXT.  Anyone at any ISP along the way can see those
passwords, unless you tunnel the FTP inside a VPN.

Actually what I am seeing more and more in the "real world" is the use
of FTP over SSH.  This is a Good Thing (TM).

JRJ

-----Original Message-----
From: Kim Horn [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 5:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Can VFS SFTP Passwords be encrypted


It may, we are given simple text passwords by systems we have to
interface too. FTP is still the largest B2B mechanism in the US :-). We
cannot ask them to supply us anything else but a simple
username/password; this is the reality of B2B.  The only issue we have
is that these are not kept in clear text in script files. In our domain
this is illegal and in all other domains bad practise.  So all we
require is to be able to have these encrypted in any script files. I
think this Jira suggests a stronger mechanism, sharing keys between SFTP
servers, but is totally impractical in real world B2B.


Kim

-----Original Message-----
From: Asankha Perera [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Asankha C. Perera
Sent: Thursday, 2 April 2009 3:48 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Can VFS SFTP Passwords be encrypted

Hi Jay / Kim
> A suggestion.  SFTP can use PKI shared keys for authentication.  The
keys are host+user specific.
>
> I am not familiar enough with Synapse to know exactly how you'd go
about it, but I do suggest that the answer lies in using PKI.
>
I guess https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SYNAPSE-507 is a proper
solution for this.. and possibly we could already tweak VFS to do this..

cheers
asankhaa

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Asankha C. Perera
AdroitLogic, http://adroitlogic.org

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