On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 3:50 PM, Atanu Mishra <[email protected]> wrote:

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> On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Stack <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 10:41 AM, Amanda Moran <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
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>>> The core needs to change based on the CDH or HDP version (hbase-trx*.jar
>>> to be specific).
>>>
>>>
>> Is that because of the subclassing of regionservers? If so, can we fix
>> this; move on to coprocessors?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> St.Ack
>>
>
> ​No, afraid this is despite the move to coprocessors.
>
> Amanda is right. The core does need to change typically depending on the
> CDH or HDP version.
>
>
Bummer. Can we fix that? Can HBase do anything to help here?
St.Ack




> Atanu
> ​
>
>
>>
>>
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>>> Other folks speak up on this one... I am no expert :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Gunnar Tapper <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>> The Trafodion project needs to do everything it can to make it easy for
>>>> users to adopt the great software. Is there any special work that needs to
>>>> be done beyond maintaining the installer and running tests?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Gunnar
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Carol Pearson <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Atanu,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!  I think that we need to make it as easy as possible for our
>>>>> users to try Trafodion and to use Trafodion.  I don't think most of our
>>>>> non-developer users will be using Trafodion on a plain Apache platform,
>>>>> especially if they're trying it in a commercial environment.  Hortonworks
>>>>> and Cloudera have free community editions.
>>>>>
>>>>> As we're trying to increase our user base and grow our community, it
>>>>> seems to me that we want to make it easier for folks to try and to use
>>>>> Trafodion, rather than harder.  So making sure we have basic functionality
>>>>> that works on the most common distros seems to me to be a basic 
>>>>> requirement
>>>>> for success.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Carol P.
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Email:    [email protected]
>>>>> Twitter:  @CarolP222
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 11:25 PM, Atanu Mishra <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Carol,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Great question! Once Trafodion supports Apache Hadoop/HBase, I
>>>>>> question whether there is a reason to continue to support the Cloudera 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> HortonWorks distros.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Atanu
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Carol Pearson [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 4, 2016 4:53 PM
>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>> *Subject:* Trafodion Release 2.0 Hadoop/HBase Versions?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Trafodion Fans,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm trying to make sure I'm clear on the targeted runtime
>>>>>> environments for our next release, which I think we're calling Trafodion
>>>>>> 2.0.  I've seen that it needs to  support working with Apache Hadoop, 
>>>>>> since
>>>>>> the 1.3 release supported only the  Cloudera and Hadoop distros.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Trafodion 2.0*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From what's been discussed on the Dev list and here, I think the
>>>>>> target is:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  - Linux Versions CentOS 6.5-6.7 (RHEL 6.5-6.7 - untested? but should
>>>>>> support)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  - SUSE?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Hadoop/Version            HBase Version
>>>>>>
>>>>>> =========================================
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cloudera CDH 5.4.x                 1.1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hortonworks HDP 2.3                1.1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apache Hadoop 2.7.1                1.1
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are these the targets that folks are working on Trafodion 2.0 to
>>>>>> support?  Are they the right ones? (For example, should we be looking at
>>>>>> Apache Hadoop 2.6.3?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are there other versions of software in the Hadoop ecosystem whose
>>>>>> versions should be specified as targets, especially for distro-less 
>>>>>> vanilla
>>>>>> Apache Hadoop?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that once we release, we should identify the specific
>>>>>> versions that folks have tested with (which might not be all versions and
>>>>>> all distros).  I think we should also list versions for software that we
>>>>>> believe should work but have not been tested. As I was trying to 
>>>>>> understand
>>>>>> which releases worked with what, I came across a great chart in the the
>>>>>> HBase reference book in section 4.1:
>>>>>> https://hbase.apache.org/book.html#basic.prerequisites then scroll
>>>>>> down to see the Hadoop versions.  It would be great to develop that chart
>>>>>> for Trafodion as 2.0 goes forward.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for any light people can shed on this!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Carol P.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PS:  For reference, here's my understanding of what Trafodion 1.3
>>>>>> supported:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've put together the following chart based on the notes from the
>>>>>> Trafodion website for release 1.3 and my understanding of Trafodion 2.0:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Trafodion 1.3: (Current release)*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   - Linux Versions:  CentOS 6.5-6.7, (RHEL 6.5-6.7 - untested? but
>>>>>> should support)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Hadoop/Version            HBase Version
>>>>>>
>>>>>> =========================================
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cloudera CDH 5.3.x                 0.98
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hortonworks HDP 2.2                0.98
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Email:    [email protected]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Twitter:  @CarolP222
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> ____________________
>>>>>> Atanu Mishra
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Gunnar
>>>> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Amanda Moran
>>>
>>
>>
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