Dear Josh,

That is true !  Thanks again for the clarification !  I will start doing
some experiments and see what it gives from performance perspective ! In
the other hand, I will keep updating for any proposal of ideas can be
generated then we can refine the scheduler code and retest again !

Many thanks for sharing such valuable information!

We will keep updated !

Best Regards
PhD Team

2014-10-30 19:56 GMT+01:00 Josh Thompson <[email protected]>:

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> Khder,
>
> The scheduler only allocates a computer randomly if
> SCHEDULER_ALLOCATE_RANDOM_COMPUTER is set to 1 in conf.php, which it is
> not by
> default.
>
> Yes, you could create pools that each have a weight or ranking assigned.
> Each
> computer would be assigned to a pool.  Then, when the initial set of
> computers
> is generated, they could be ranked by the pool weight/ranks.  It would
> then be
> up to an administer or external application to manage the weight/rank of
> each
> pool.
>
> Josh
>
> On Thursday, October 30, 2014 7:48:50 PM Khder Omar wrote:
> > Dear Josh,
> >
> > I would like to thank you for the precious hints concerning the
> scheduling
> > nature within VCL. I can see that the set of computers is filtered in
> > advance and then the scheduler will pick up RANDOMLY one of them. To
> check
> > the possibilities to extend the function considering a large scale
> > environment where we can introduce the 'region' or 'pool' term in the
> code.
> > With multiple management nodes, do you think that using the 'weight' for
> > the workload per pool and then per computer therefore will rank it will
> be
> > more precise on how to balance the load across the hole infrastructure ?
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > PhD team
> >
> > 2014-10-30 19:28 GMT+01:00 Josh Thompson <[email protected]>:
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> > > Khder,
> > >
> > > Sorry for the late response.
> > >
> > > You can certainly experiment with extending the code to include more
> > > advanced
> > > scheduling functions.  The existing ranking of computers is something
> like
> > > this:
> > >
> > > 1) generate a set of all computers meeting the minimum requirements of
> the
> > > image, that the user has access to, and that the image is mapped to;
> order
> > > that list by node specs from low to high
> > > 2) remove from that set any computers that are already assigned
> > > reservations
> > > 3) if the image is virtual, remove any VMs for which the host doesn't
> have
> > > enough memory to load the VM (without overbooking)
> > > 4) assign the new reservation the first computer from that set for
> which
> > > an
> > > active management node can be found
> > >
> > > There's actually 3 sets of computers being tracked - those already
> loaded
> > > with
> > > the image being requested, those set aside for a block allocation of
> which
> > > the
> > > user is a member, and then a set of both of those plus any available
> > > computers
> > > that are currently loaded with another image.
> > >
> > > There is a configuration option (SCHEDULER_ALLOCATE_RANDOM_COMPUTER) in
> > > conf.php that allows the sets of computers to be randomized.  The
> > > motivation
> > > behind this option is for sites that have homogeneous virtual machines
> and
> > > hosts.  Randomizing the assigned computer should help spread the load
> > > equally
> > > among all existing hosts.
> > >
> > > I hope that helps.
> > >
> > > Josh
> > >
> > > On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 9:01:17 PM Khder Omar wrote:
> > > > Hi Josh,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your reaction. I have checked the code source and I think
> the
> > > > only function which might fulfill my question is function
> > >
> > > allocComputer(...)
> > >
> > > > Eventually, the function a piece test schedule code
> > > >
> > > >  if(SCHEDULER_ALLOCATE_RANDOM_COMPUTER) {
> > > >
> > > >               shuffle($blockids);
> > > >               shuffle($currentids);
> > > >               shuffle($computerids);
> > > >
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I might assume if it was correctly understood that VCL scheduler
> process
> > > > determines in first place a computer to be assigned to a management
> node
> > > > from a given array or table in order otherwise it can be randomly
> > > > chosen!
> > > > Then, we can assume that the scheduling decision is still using a
> basic
> > > > order as FCFS or a chance/Random order! It that assumed be correct ?
> if
> > >
> > > so,
> > >
> > > > is there a way to extend the code by including more advanced
> scheduling
> > > > functions ?
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > PhD Team
> > > >
> > > > 2014-10-21 16:11 GMT+01:00 Josh Thompson <[email protected]>:
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> > > > > Khder,
> > > > >
> > > > > The scheduling of reservations is actually done in the web code.
> Have
> > >
> > > a
> > >
> > > > > look
> > > > > at the isAvailable function in the web/.ht-inc/utils.php file.
> > > > >
> > > > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/vcl/trunk/web/.ht-inc/utils.php
> > > > >
> > > > > Josh
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:39:05 PM Khder Omar wrote:
> > > > > > Dear all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We were wondering what kind of scheduler algorithms VCL might
> use ?
> > >
> > > Any
> > >
> > > > > > hints about the scheduler source code will be appreciated. The
> idea
> > >
> > > is
> > >
> > > > > > actually to check how VCL will perform while changing the
> scheduler
> > > > > > algorithm [in management node].
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks in advance
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > Phd team
> > > > >
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