Sirona is in the incubator and from a quick peek seems to be a library for adding monitoring/counters/metrics and then storing them: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/SironaProposal
but its also got a web app too. I'm sure we could add a plugin for Sirona to hawtio; I've raised an issue to track it: https://github.com/hawtio/hawtio/issues/701 As an aside, we've a plugin for querying ElasticSearch if the metrics are stored there; and we've a plugin in Fuse for dumping metrics from MBeans into ElasticSearch for historical charting and the like (in this module: https://github.com/jboss-fuse/fuse/tree/master/insight/insight-metrics) I guess using Sirona is another alternative to storing the metrics? It'd be nice to have an ElasticSearch collector for Sirona, then the existing ElasticSearch based plugin would just work ;) >From an ActiveMQ perspective; adopting Sirona would require changes to the existing ActiveMQ MBeans right? Or can Sirona just act as a different collector/persistence engine of metrics? On 30 October 2013 14:53, Paul Gale <[email protected]> wrote: > What on earth is sirona/hawtio???? > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi guys, something to think about is sirona/hawtio I think. Any ideas? > > Goals are not exactly the same but there are some overlaps so I'd expect > > sirona amq, camel etc plugins. > > Le 29 oct. 2013 21:19, "Hiram Chirino" <[email protected]> a écrit > : > > > >> You could also post process that hawtio bits. It gets packaged in the > >> assembly module. Right now the > >> assembly/src/main/descriptors/common-bin.xml file handles unpacking > >> the hawtio bits into the activemq distro. You could overwrite any > >> bits that are needed there. > >> > >> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:40 AM, James Carman > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > But, it's the ActiveMQ Web Console now, installed by default with the > >> > newest ActiveMQ. Shouldn't the ActiveMQ PMC have some oversight into > >> > their web console? > >> > > >> > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:36 AM, James Strachan > >> > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Its not an Apache project > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On 25 October 2013 15:35, James Carman <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> There is no PMC oversight to the changes? > >> >>> > >> >>> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Claus Ibsen < > [email protected]> > >> >>> wrote: > >> >>> > The github way of doing things > >> >>> > https://github.com/hawtio/hawtio > >> >>> > > >> >>> > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 3:56 PM, James Carman > >> >>> > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >>> >> If I want to submit a change to the new web console, how do I do > >> that? > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Thanks, > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> James > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > -- > >> >>> > Claus Ibsen > >> >>> > ----------------- > >> >>> > Red Hat, Inc. > >> >>> > Email: [email protected] > >> >>> > Twitter: davsclaus > >> >>> > Blog: http://davsclaus.com > >> >>> > Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> James > >> >> ------- > >> >> Red Hat > >> >> > >> >> Email: [email protected] > >> >> Web: http://fusesource.com > >> >> Twitter: jstrachan, fusenews > >> >> Blog: http://macstrac.blogspot.com/ > >> >> > >> >> Open Source Integration > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Hiram Chirino > >> > >> Engineering | Red Hat, Inc. > >> > >> [email protected] | fusesource.com | redhat.com > >> > >> skype: hiramchirino | twitter: @hiramchirino > >> > >> blog: Hiram Chirino's Bit Mojo > >> > -- James ------- Red Hat Email: [email protected] Web: http://fusesource.com Twitter: jstrachan, fusenews Blog: http://macstrac.blogspot.com/ Open Source Integration
