I was going to write a JIRA enhancement request for that when I had some
free time, but if you have time to write it before I get to it, that would
be fine.  Please put the link here if you do.

On Sep 22, 2016 9:00 AM, "lichtin" <lich...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Changing trace levels and using the debugger is not always an option in
> production.
> I'm wondering why we could not revive the "KahaDBJournalReader" tool
> from https://issues.jboss.org/browse/MB-756 and ship it with ActiveMQ.
>
>
> Tim Bain wrote
> > Alternatively, you all could run the KahaDB file analysis tool (
> > http://activemq.apache.org/why-do-kahadb-log-files-
> remain-after-cleanup.html)
> > with a debugger attached to try to see what destination has the
> message(s)
> > that are keeping 980 and 1438 alive.  (You say that 1328 shouldn't be
> > there, but the log shows that it's there because it contains acks for
> > messages in 980, so it should be there, at least until 980 is deleted.)
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > On Sep 22, 2016 6:39 AM, "Steve Hill" <
>
> > shill@.co
>
> > > wrote:
> >
> > After the comment about the TOPIC I decided to take a quick look at that
> > in
> > the web interface (just to make sure nothing had gone awry)  In deed one
> > of
> > our "queues" had been created as a topic, not sure why as we use the same
> > code to connect to the queues however once removed most of the data files
> > vanished.
> >
> > Under the topics there are several activemq.advisory.xyz topics. Could
> > these be the source of the remaining kahadb log files that still remain?
> >
> > I am now down to three data files that should not be there. (db-980,
> > db-1329, and db-1438)
> >
> >
> > -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Aug  8 14:00 db-980.log
> > -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq   527645 Sep 19 19:11 db-1329.log
> > drwxr-xr-x. 5 activemq activemq     4096 Sep 20 14:57 ..
> > -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq        8 Sep 21 13:17 lock
> > -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33553518 Sep 21 21:52 db-1438.log
> > drwxr-xr-x. 2 activemq activemq    12288 Sep 22 08:20 .
> > -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq  3287296 Sep 22 08:34 db.redo
> > -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 12357632 Sep 22 08:34 db.data
> > -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Sep 22 08:34 db-1456.log
> >
> > From kahadb logs
> >
> >  2016-09-22 08:31:07,503 [eckpoint Worker] TRACE MessageDatabase
> >     - gc candidates: [1329]
> >  2016-09-22 08:31:07,504 [eckpoint Worker] TRACE MessageDatabase
> >     - ackMessageFileMap: {1329=[980], 1438=[], 1456=[]}
> >  2016-09-22 08:31:07,504 [eckpoint Worker] TRACE MessageDatabase
> >     - not removing data file: 1329 as contained ack(s) refer to
> referenced
> > file: [980]
> >  2016-09-22 08:31:07,505 [eckpoint Worker] TRACE MessageDatabase
> >     - Not yet time to check for compaction: 7 of 10 cycles
> >  2016-09-22 08:31:07,505 [eckpoint Worker] DEBUG MessageDatabase
> >     - Checkpoint done.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Steve.
> >
> >
> > On 9/22/16 8:14 AM, Steve Hill wrote:
> >
> >> Chris/Tim:
> >>
> >> Thanks for the ideas.  Unfortunately neither are the case in our
> >> situation.  The web client shows 0 messages in any of our queues and we
> >> are
> >> not using topics.  We did set up the remote debug port and downloaded
> the
> >> source code if there is anything useful to further troubleshoot that
> >> could
> >> be gleaned from there?
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >> Steve.
> >>
> >>
> >> The most likely place for you to have old messages laying around is in
> >> the
> >> DLQ.  The next most likely place is on a topic for an offline (and never
> >> coming back) durable subscriber.
> >>
> >> Tim
> >>
> >> On Sep 20, 2016 2:02 PM, "Christopher Shannon" <
> >>
>
> > christopher.l.shannon@
>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Do you have old messages laying around?  KahaDB can't clean up old
> >> journal
> >> files if there are messages scattered throughout the logs.  Even a
> single
> >> unacked message means that a journal file (and the future files) can't
> be
> >> cleaned up. This situation tends to happen either when there are old
> >> messages not being acked quick enough or there are different
> destinations
> >> with different speeds.  Ie if one queue has a very slow message rate and
> >> another queue has a high message rate.
> >>
> >> Assuming there isn't some sort of bug with the GC process then one way
> to
> >> help lower the usage would be to split up destinations into different
> >> stores using multiKahaDB.  Take a look at Gary's blog post on this:
> >> http://blog.garytully.com/2011/11/activemq-multiple-
> kahadb-instances.html
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 1:04 PM, Hill, Steve <
>
> > SHill@
>
> > > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi fellow ActiveMQ users!
> >>>
> >>> I have searched all over the internet and can not find a solution to a
> >>> problem we are experiencing where old log files are not removed from
> >>> KAHADB.  Needless to say we uncovered this problem when we exceeded the
> >>> size of our persistent store in production :-)
> >>>
> >>> We are using client side acknowledgement for all reads from the Queue
> >>> and
> >>> have restarted all clients and also ActiveMQ numerous times, yet the
> >>> messages do not get removed.  We are also using the network connector
> to
> >>> move messages to the queue that has an active consumer.  We were using
> >>> 5.13.0 but moved to 5.14.0 on the hope it might address this problem.
> >>>
> >>> Follows are some more detailed messages; does anyone have an idea how
> we
> >>> can resolve this problem?
> >>>
> >>> KAHADB logging is enabled and we see the following messages in the log
> >>> file.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  2016-09-20 08:59:10,207 [eckpoint Worker] TRACE MessageDatabase
> >>>       - not removing data file: 1278 as contained ack(s) refer to
> >>> referenced file: [1278, 1277]
> >>>
> >>>  2016-09-20 08:59:10,207 [eckpoint Worker] TRACE MessageDatabase
> >>>       - not removing data file: 1279 as contained ack(s) refer to
> >>> referenced file: [674]
> >>>
> >>>  2016-09-20 08:59:10,208 [eckpoint Worker] TRACE MessageDatabase
> >>>       - not removing data file: 1280 as contained ack(s) refer to
> >>> referenced file: [691]
> >>>
> >>>  2016-09-20 08:59:10,208 [eckpoint Worker] TRACE MessageDatabase
> >>>       - not removing data file: 1281 as contained ack(s) refer to
> >>> referenced file: [699]
> >>>
> >>>  2016-09-20 08:59:10,209 [eckpoint Worker] TRACE MessageDatabase
> >>>       - not removing data file: 1282 as contained ack(s) refer to
> >>> referenced file: [699]
> >>>
> >>>  2016-09-20 08:59:10,210 [eckpoint Worker] TRACE MessageDatabase
> >>>       - not removing data file: 1283 as contained ack(s) refer to
> >>> referenced file: [705]
> >>>
> >>>  2016-09-20 08:59:10,210 [eckpoint Worker] TRACE MessageDatabase
> >>>       - not removing data file: 1284 as contained ack(s) refer to
> >>> referenced file: [711]
> >>>
> >>>  2016-09-20 08:59:10,211 [eckpoint Worker] TRACE MessageDatabase
> >>>       - not removing data file: 1288 as contained ack(s) refer to
> >>> referenced file: [674]
> >>>
> >>>  2016-09-20 08:59:10,211 [eckpoint Worker] TRACE MessageDatabase
> >>>       - not removing data file: 1289 as contained ack(s) refer to
> >>> referenced file: [790]
> >>>
> >>>  2016-09-20 08:59:10,212 [eckpoint Worker] TRACE MessageDatabase
> >>>       - not removing data file: 1290 as contained ack(s) refer to
> >>> referenced file: [1290, 1278]
> >>>
> >>>  2016-09-20 08:59:10,213 [eckpoint Worker] TRACE MessageDatabase
> >>>       - not removing data file: 1291 as contained ack(s) refer to
> >>> referenced file: [790]
> >>>
> >>> The files at this point are months old.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Jul 14 21:23 db-674.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Jul 16 01:57 db-691.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Jul 17 02:10 db-699.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Jul 18 03:55 db-705.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Jul 19 01:32 db-711.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Jul 25 15:15 db-790.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Jul 26 10:32 db-858.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Jul 27 00:19 db-865.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Jul 27 03:03 db-866.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Jul 28 01:45 db-877.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Jul 29 01:18 db-888.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Jul 30 02:10 db-899.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Jul 31 01:11 db-904.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Aug  1 00:19 db-909.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Aug  1 04:42 db-910.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Aug  2 01:07 db-918.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Aug  3 01:38 db-930.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Aug  4 00:19 db-939.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Aug  4 03:16 db-940.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Aug  5 00:23 db-949.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Aug  6 02:42 db-960.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Aug  7 02:18 db-968.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Aug  8 00:44 db-975.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Aug  8 14:00 db-980.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Aug  8 15:41 db-981.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Aug  9 01:43 db-1051.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Aug 11 00:20 db-1066.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Aug 11 03:01 db-1067.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Aug 12 00:19 db-1074.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Aug 12 03:05 db-1075.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Aug 13 00:19 db-1082.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Aug 13 03:04 db-1083.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Aug 14 01:06 db-1093.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Aug 15 01:18 db-1111.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Aug 16 02:38 db-1126.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Aug 17 00:19 db-1137.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Aug 17 02:32 db-1138.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Aug 18 00:21 db-1155.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Aug 19 00:51 db-1167.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq 33554432 Sep 19 13:42 db-1277.log
> >>>
> >>> -rw-r--r--. 1 activemq activemq   597139 Sep 19 14:59 db-1279.log
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>>
> >>> Steve Hill
> >>>
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