maybe go to a course... if you don't know all these terms... you are a
long way away of doing this stuff on you own.
in our company we have juniors at your level. i guide them in learning
all this stuff. i hope in a couple of months they can do some things on
their own and they will safe me time.


tibi

meisam4910 wrote:
> ou know John what my big problem is? the big problem is that for example
> after what u said i go for the appfuse (for the backbone) and Struts or
> Spring for learning, the first tutorial i face i find out there many
> concepts i have no idea about, then i feel badly frustrated. for example
> right now i have opened this page:
> http://struts.apache.org/2.x/docs/tutorials.html
> there are plenty of terms i have just heard of them but not worked with
> them, if i want to go and learn them it will take a long time, may be im not
> right but the terms like maven, xml properties, ...beans, CRUD and...are
> bothering me, thats why i give it up and ...
> do u have any idea over this problem ? you may say go and learn one by one,
> i would say sure i will, BUT..from where i need to start? which one of those
> topics i need to go first for ? hibernate ? beans? controllers ? mvc ?..i
> have ead so many things about these terms but still have not felt them by my
> own, i have not done any real world project with them. would you put them
> all in steps for me and the tell me the priorities ?
>
>
> John Kwon wrote:
>   
>> It's good to continue to use any and all of them as long as the need
>> arises.
>>
>> You're going to be doing more than one project in your life - probably
>> more
>> than one in the next couple of years.  Some start a project nearly every
>> month.  So AppFuse is handy to use.
>>
>> Struts and Spring are both good to know - and it's easier to set up one of
>> those using AppFuse than trying to do it manually.
>>
>> And, like all things software development related, things are changing
>> fast.  Pick a direction and keep learning as rapidly as possible, because
>> everything changes.
>>
>> Look at the history of the original Struts, and what it's become now - or
>> AppFuse - it's older versions differ substantially from the current
>> version.
>>
>> Core concepts don't change - how we wrap them, architect them, and
>> implement
>> them changes every day.
>>
>> One might argue that J2EE (as diagrammed by Sun on their original J2EE
>> documentation) was nothing more than a grand implementation of CICS.
>> Transactional page interaction with persistence transactions back on the
>> server.  We might see web services as the modern implementation of CICS
>> transactions.  While the implementation has radically changed, the core
>> concept of interfacing with transactions has not changed in decades.
>>
>> Learn all you can, don't be afraid to learn something new or extra, and
>> keep
>> the core concepts close to you.
>>
>> On 9/29/07, meisam4910 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>     
>>> is it good to continue using appfuse or isn`t better to learn about
>>> Struts
>>> or
>>> Spring ? I mean to learn them fully and build our projects based on them
>>> ?
>>> or can we count on appfuse forever and use appfuse always ?
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