GWT is a different beast because it *is* a web framework and you could write
your whole application with it. Others, like YUI and Prototype - you
typically just use to enhance your application, not write the whole thing. I
like GWT and have been using it on a daily basis for the last 4 months. You
can read more about an Ajax Framework evaluation I did back in January at:

http://raibledesigns.com/rd/entry/ajax_framework_analysis_results

Matt

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 8:55 AM, tibi <t...@dds.nl> wrote:

> interesting point of view.
> in my company there is a bit of a flamewar going on between GWT and
> struts2 (me). GWT beeing more a Web2.0 framework seems to have some
> advantages. but if i follow you correctly you see that as a downside?
>
>
>
> Matt Raible wrote:
> > I don't think having an Ajax framework built-in to a web framework is
> > a good idea. Often, I think it's easier to program the JavaScript
> > rather than having your framework do it for you. Also, if you're
> > controlling the JavaScript, you can make your app so it degrades when
> > there is no JavaScript enabled. Another disadvantage of having an Ajax
> > framework built-in is you're stuck on the web framework's version of
> > the library and often they don't seem to be maintained that well.
> >
> > Matt
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 7:11 AM, Reza Farshi <reza.far...@gmail.com
> > <mailto:reza.far...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Struts folks have  discontinued supporting  AJAX theme in new
> >     version (2.1.6) , I am one of struts fan , but b/c of that I think
> >     it's not reliable to trust to this framework in AJAX area.
> >     you can do ajaxifying by DWR beside struts framework i think
> >
> >
> >
> >     On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Reza Farshi
> >     <reza.far...@gmail.com <mailto:reza.far...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >         After some googling and reading many web logs ,I rather to use
> >         JSFfor presentation layer,
> >         There are so  many helper jsf component out , boosting RIA
> >         development,
> >         ICEFaces , richfaces , and other libraries,
> >         btw, thanks for your guide,
> >
> >         it's so easy to
> >         On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Irshad Buchh
> >         <ibu...@gmail.com <mailto:ibu...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >             We had a similar situation like yours some time back. We
> >             picked up Spring MVC
> >             archetype and managed to add JQuery and we are very
> >             satisfied. JQuery based
> >             AJAX is much better than some of the other AJAX frameworks.
> >
> >             --Irshad.
> >
> >
> >             mraible wrote:
> >             >
> >             > You say you need heavy Ajax. I'd recommend choosing an
> >             Ajax framework you
> >             > like (or using Protoype, which ships with AppFuse) and
> >             then use it which
> >             > whichever framework you'd prefer.
> >             >
> >             > Matt
> >             >
> >             > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 5:16 AM, Reza Farshi
> >             <reza.far...@gmail.com <mailto:reza.far...@gmail.com>>
> >             > wrote:
> >             >
> >             >>
> >             >> so which is the best (among available arch-types) for
> >             our problem you
> >             >> think?
> >             >>
> >             >>
> >             >> On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 1:15 AM, Matt Raible
> >             >> <m...@raibledesigns.com
> >             <mailto:m...@raibledesigns.com>>wrote:
> >             >>
> >             >>> The GWT archetype will likely not be available until
> >             sometime this
> >             >>> summer.
> >             >>>
> >             >>> Matt
> >             >>>
> >             >>>
> >             >>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 4:37 AM, Saeed Iqbal
> >             <saee...@gmail.com <mailto:saee...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >             >>>
> >             >>>> No i dont know because i didnt use GWT yet. For my
> >             project rich faces
> >             >>>> does the job
> >             >>>>
> >             >>>>
> >             >>>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Reza Farshi
> >             >>>> <reza.far...@gmail.com
> >             <mailto:reza.far...@gmail.com>>wrote:
> >             >>>>
> >             >>>>> Dear saeed,
> >             >>>>> Thnaks for your rocket jet reply.
> >             >>>>> do u know when gwt arch type will released?
> >             >>>>>
> >             >>>>>
> >             >>>>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Saeed Iqbal
> >             <saee...@gmail.com <mailto:saee...@gmail.com>>
> >             >>>>> wrote:
> >             >>>>>
> >             >>>>>> For heavy Ajax you could use JSF and put richfaces
> >             or Prim Faces
> >             >>>>>> instead of ajax4jsf
> >             >>>>>>
> >             >>>>>>
> >             >>>>>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Reza Farshi
> >             >>>>>> <reza.far...@gmail.com
> >             <mailto:reza.far...@gmail.com>>wrote:
> >             >>>>>>
> >             >>>>>>> Dear Friends
> >             >>>>>>> We are gonna develop a GPS tracking system  ,
> >             which one is better
> >             >>>>>>> archtype to choose?
> >             >>>>>>> We have used modular struts before in another
> >             project , but b/c of
> >             >>>>>>> needing  heavy AJAX coding in this project,   I
> >             think it's not a
> >             >>>>>>> good
> >             >>>>>>> solution for this project.
> >             >>>>>>> so what is the best archtype in your opinion?
> >             >>>>>>> thanks in advance.
> >             >>>>>>> --
> >             >>>>>>>
> >             >>>>>>> --
> >             >>>>>>> Reza Farshi
> >             >>>>>>>
> >             >>>>>>
> >             >>>>>>
> >             >>>>>>
> >             >>>>>> --
> >             >>>>>> Saeed Iqbal
> >             >>>>>> CEO - Iqbal Consulting
> >             >>>>>> http://www.iqbalconsulting.com
> >             >>>>>> +92-345-5444410
> >             >>>>>>
> >             >>>>>
> >             >>>>>
> >             >>>>>
> >             >>>>> --
> >             >>>>> Reza Farshi
> >             >>>>>
> >             >>>>
> >             >>>>
> >             >>>>
> >             >>>> --
> >             >>>> Saeed Iqbal
> >             >>>> CEO - Iqbal Consulting
> >             >>>> http://www.iqbalconsulting.com
> >             >>>> +92-345-5444410
> >             >>>>
> >             >>>
> >             >>>
> >             >>
> >             >>
> >             >> --
> >             >> Reza Farshi
> >             >>
> >             >
> >             >
> >
> >             --
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