Hi Brenden
As I mentioned in previous emails, I don't work for the BioMart project so I 
cannot comment on whether anything has changed with the ID converter on the 
BioMart Central portal. I have cc'd Arek who might be able to help you.
Regards
Rhoda

On 9 Apr 2013, at 20:12, Brenden Chen <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi, Rhonda
> 
> Today (Apr 9th, 2013), the same phenomenon (as described in our prior 
> correspondence, see below) occurred again. Please see attachments for the 
> details.
> As you could see in the screenshot.docx, several UCSC IDs have no matching 
> HGNC symbols.
> However, in the downloaded file - result040913.txt - all unmatched UCSC IDs 
> were removed.
> I am not clear if you meant a new version of ID converter will remove the 
> unmatched IDs (or not remove?).
> But as of today, it looks like the program chooses to remove them, even 
> though the unmatched UCSC IDs are true transcripts of respective genes.
> I do hope the program would keep all unmatched IDs, as long as they are 
> legitimate transcripts.
> 
> Could you confirm if a new version of ID converter has been implemented ?
> 
> Best,
> Brenden
> 
> 
> On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 4:42 AM, Rhoda Kinsella <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Brenden
> Here are my responses to Q1 and Q2:
> 
> Q1: I tried to replicate your issue using the Ensembl biomart databases at 
> www.ensembl.org, for which my team are responsible for creating and 
> maintaining. I clicked on UCSC ID and HGNC ID attributes (no filters 
> selected) and downloaded the results in TSV format. Here is a sample of what 
> I got:
> 
> HGNC ID(s)    UCSC ID
>       uc022acc.1
> 32652 uc003eoi.2
> 38207 
>       uc021rcb.1
> 41892 uc003imv.3
> 33192 
>       uc021vrp.1
> 32622 uc009ywe.3
> 43036 
> 38305 
> 32982 uc021sci.1
>       uc021zag.1
>       uc021tlh.1
>       uc021xuv.1
> 
> You will see that for some lines there is a UCSC ID but no HGNC ID and vice 
> versa. For these instances there is a blank space for the missing ID. This is 
> the expected BioMart behaviour. If I understand you correctly, you have input 
> UCSC IDs and in the interface you see that input ID with a corresponding 
> blank space if there is no HGNC ID. I think that if the database does not 
> contain the UCSC ID that you have input, it should not report back anything 
> on the interface or on the output file. This may be a new feature of the 
> BioMart 0.8 interface, so I would be grateful if you could provide some 
> example IDs for which this is occurring so that I can investigate further.
> 
> Q2: As I mentioned in my previous emails to you, I work for the Ensembl 
> project and we create the Ensembl BioMart databases that are added to the 
> BioMart central portal along with many other databases from different 
> projects. If you have a query about the data in the Ensembl BioMart 
> databases, please do email [email protected]. For any BioMart central 
> portal issues, please email this [email protected] mailing list.
> 
> I hope that helps,
> Regards
> Rhoda
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 26 Mar 2013, at 20:48, Brenden Chen <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> To whom it may concern,
>> 
>> My name is Brenden Chen, a postdoc fellow at Mount Sinai in New York (US). 
>> I have a few questions regarding Biomart and hope that someone could help 
>> clarify them.
>> 
>> Q1. Regarding ID converter, I was converting UCSC IDs to HGNC IDs a few days 
>> ago. The return at the time included several blank HGNC IDs, which is fine 
>> as, I was told later,
>> UCSC updates their database daily whereas HGNC/Ensemble database does not. 
>> However, earlier today (Mar. 26, 2013) when I was trying with the same ID 
>> converter, while the
>> result in the pop-up window still included blank HGNC IDs, the download file 
>> actually removed those that did not have a matching HGNC IDs. Is this 
>> "removal" functionality a revised version of Biomart ID converter or a 
>> glitch? From a user's standpoint, it's still useful to have unmatched blank 
>> IDs listed, at least we could manually fill in the blank. Now we need to 
>> manually add those UCSC IDs that do not have a matching HGNC IDs.
>> 
>> Q2. The website seems to be maintained by several groups around the globe. 
>> One of my prior communication with Biomart mentioned that I could have 
>> further inquiries emailed to
>> [email protected]. What is the "correct" corresponding emails for any 
>> similar question like the one above.
>> 
>> Please advise. Thank you
>> 
>> Brenden
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> Rhoda Kinsella Ph.D.
> Ensembl Production Project Leader,
> European Bioinformatics Institute (EMBL-EBI),
> Wellcome Trust Genome Campus,
> Hinxton,
> Cambridge,
> CB10 1SD
> 
> 
> 
> 
> <results040913.txt><screenshot.docx>

Rhoda Kinsella Ph.D.
Ensembl Production Project Leader,
European Bioinformatics Institute (EMBL-EBI),
Wellcome Trust Genome Campus,
Hinxton,
Cambridge,
CB10 1SD



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