I just put together a new compiler that is using a different JAVA_HOME to
run.

It gives you the ability to compile half your projects with a jdk5, half the
others with a jdk6 (for example). And it's really small.

Think this would help ? I am sure neither Maven nor Ant support that.

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 09:16, Daniel Spiewak <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm actually not at a loss for material; quite the opposite!  I would
> certainly like to emphasize Buildr's extensibility, since I think that is
> one of the key features which separates us from other build tools.
> Unfortunately, I *also* want to cover a lot of the cool high-level
> features like shell support and continuous-compilation.  Maybe I'm just too
> greedy...
>
> Coming back to extensibility, I was thinking of the following three
> examples (in order):
>
>    - Documentation generation (ReST => PDF)
>    - A :run task
>    - JFlex compiler-compiler integration
>
> The first two are obviously tasks that *everyone* runs into and Maven
> handles in particularly clumsy ways.  I picked the third mostly because it's
> a very non-trivial task which illustrates Buildr's Java integration quite
> nicely while still remaining surprisingly concise.  Unfortunately, it's also
> something that very few people ever do, and so I'm a little hesitant.  Any
> better suggestions here?  Ideally, I'm looking for something which would be
> nearly impossible in Maven/Ant (definitely requiring a Java extension),
> something which showcases Java invocation and still falls into a dozen or so
> lines.  Maybe I should just recreate one of the core Buildr plugins?
>
> Daniel
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Antoine Toulme 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> If you need a few real plugins to demonstrate, I can probably give a hand
>> there.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Antoine
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 08:04, Alex Boisvert <[email protected]
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Daniel,
>> >
>> > I like your outline;  it sounds like a presentation I'd like to attend
>> > myself.  Here's my (textile) outline for a 55-minute talk.    I shift
>> from
>> > slide-presentation mode to hands-on coding (with as much cheating as
>> > possible to save time) about mid-way, then come back to slides towards
>> the
>> > end.   It's not fully ironed out yet but should give you a good idea of
>> how
>> > I go about it.  I think the hardest part is picking which subjects to
>> cover
>> > from the wide array of interesting Buildr features.
>> >
>> > alex
>> >
>> > h1. About Me (1 min / 1 slide)
>> >
>> > h1. How it all started (4 minutes / 3 slides)
>> >
>> > h1. What is Apache Buildr? (2 minutes / 1 slide)
>> >
>> > h1. Project Stats and History (2 minutes / 1 slide)
>> >
>> > h1. Architecture (3 minutes / 1 diagram)
>> >
>> > h1. Tasks and Dependencies (5 minutes / 3 slides)
>> >
>> > h1. Artifacts and Repositories (3 minutes / 1 slide)
>> >
>> > h1. Project layout (2 minutes / 2 slides)
>> >
>> > h1. Example: Basic Java Project (3 minutes)
>> >
>> > h1. Example: Hierarchical Projects (2 minutes)
>> >
>> > h1. Example: Using XMLBeans Ant Task (5 minutes)
>> >
>> > h1. Example: Generating SQL DDL schemas for several databases (3
>> minutes)
>> >
>> > h1. Example: Invoking Java class through RJB/JRuby (2 minutes)
>> >
>> > h1. Example: Multi-lingual Java, Groovy, Scala project (4 minutes)
>> >
>> > h1. Handling Dependencies (5 minutes / 3 slides)
>> >
>> > * Transitive dependencies
>> > * Whitelisting vs blacklisting
>> > * Apache Ivy support
>> > * Example
>> >
>> > h1. More Stuff (2 minutes)
>> >
>> > * Briefly talk about profiles, build spec/tests, nailgun support
>> >
>> > h1. Plugins (2 minutes)
>> >
>> > * Overview table of available plugins, packaging options, testing
>> > frameworks, and IDE support
>> >
>> > h1. Roadmap (2 minutes)
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Daniel Spiewak <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Here's a revised outline.  I finished the time estimates and realized
>> I
>> > was
>> > > more than an hour over-budget.  :-)  I still need to cut some things,
>> but
>> > > this is much more focused than the old one:
>> > >
>> > > Daniel
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > =======================================
>> > > Profict Spring Camp 2009 Buildr Outline
>> > > =======================================
>> > >
>> > > One thing I'm not covering here is sub-projects.  I'd like to, but
>> they
>> > > don't
>> > > seem to fit anywhere.
>> > >
>> > > Session One
>> > > ===========
>> > >
>> > > I intend to make the do one super-point (**What is Apache Buildr**)
>> using
>> > > "traditional" slides, but everything else will be very hands-on.
>> > >
>> > > * |5m| What is Apache Buildr?
>> > >
>> > >  * Maven 2 as it should have been
>> > >  * Clean, declarative internal DSL
>> > >  * Dead-easy customization
>> > >
>> > >    * Minimal kernel; *everything* is an extension
>> > >    * Custom tasks
>> > >    * Custom build structure
>> > >
>> > >  * Speed (you don't realize how *slow* Maven 2 is until you've tried
>> > > Buildr)
>> > >
>> > > * |5m| Installing Buildr
>> > >
>> > >  * ``gem install buildr`` (we'll be using MRI for the hands-on)
>> > >  * New in 1.4: All-in-One Buildr (untar and go)
>> > >
>> > > * |25m| First steps
>> > >
>> > >  * |5m| Setting up the project
>> > >   * |10m| Adding dependencies (introduce ``artifacts``)
>> > >
>> > >    * |5m| Direct (commons-cli)
>> > >    * |5m| Transitive (wicket)
>> > >
>> > >  * |5m| Packaging
>> > >
>> > >    * ``:jar``
>> > >    * ``:war``
>> > >
>> > >  * |2m| Javadoc (using the ``doc``) task
>> > >  * |3m| IDE Metadata
>> > >
>> > > * |10m| Transition from Ant
>> > >
>> > >  * Demonstrate custom directory structure
>> > >
>> > > * |5m| Transition from Maven
>> > >
>> > >  * *Almost* drop-in replacement
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Session Two
>> > > ===========
>> > >
>> > > * |10m| Testing
>> > >
>> > >  * |5m| JUnit
>> > >  * |3m| TestNG
>> > >  * |2m| Cobertura
>> > >
>> > > * |5m| Continuous compilation
>> > > * |7m| Interactive Shell
>> > >
>> > >  * IRB
>> > >  * Clojure REPL
>> > >  * Scala
>> > >  * JRebel
>> > >
>> > >    * Demo with ``cc`` (just because it's cool)
>> > >
>> > > * |15m| Scala/Groovy support
>> > >
>> > >  * |5m| Zero-step configuration
>> > >  * |3m| Joint compilation
>> > >  * |5m| Testing (Specs + ScalaCheck)
>> > >
>> > > * |15m| Custom tasks
>> > >
>> > >  * |10m| Generating documentation (ReST => PDF)
>> > >  * |5m| A ``run`` task
>> > >
>> > >    * ``local_task``
>> > >
>> > > * |5m| Conclusion
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>

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