On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:21 AM, harinair <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Claus:
>
> I believe many components have the option of setting timeout. HTTPClient
> used by HTTP component internally have a timeout setting
> (HttpConnectionParams.setConnectionTimeout():
> http://hc.apache.org/httpclient-3.x/apidocs/org/apache/commons/httpclient/params/HttpConnectionParams.html#setConnectionTimeout(int)
This is the connection timeout, eg when establishing a connection.

There is another timeout - the SO timeout
http://hc.apache.org/httpclient-3.x/apidocs/org/apache/commons/httpclient/params/HttpMethodParams.html#setSoTimeout(int)

And you can set this already with Camel. See the http page:
http://camel.apache.org/http.html


> Same may be the case for FTP/SFTP. My problem is if a client has a bad
> server and does not release the connection, my delivery queues start filling
> up since the outbound message delivery component (like HTTP/SFTP) is stuck
> in a timeout. If the underlying layer does not have an easy timeout setting
> then it becomes difficult. Your idea of a separate thread to monitor timeout
> may be necessary. But still, is there any way we know for sure that the
> connection has timed out or it is busy transferring a huge chunk of data?
>
> As a user, the best scenario for me is to have a
> -Dorg.camel.CONNECT_TIMEOUT=XX and -Dorg.camel.READ_TIMEOUT=XX system
> properties that will set the connect / read timeouts.
System properties is really not something I am in favor of. Many
operation environments you are not allowed to tamper with start/stop
scripts of their existing infrastructure. For instance who is allowed
to tamper with the start script of WebSphere.

The timeouts should be configured in a configuration file like all the
others. Camel should have a global and then per. produder/consumer
that can overrule the global.

Some of the components have timeout values:
- JMS
- Mina
- Http

But I do not recall if the FTP have one. However it supports automatic
re-connection.

We could have it on the roadmap for Camel 2.1+ to investigate if its
possible to have such a generic timeout configuration.



>
> What do you think?
>
> Hari Gangadharan
> Architect, Globalstar
> http://www.harinair.com
>
>
> Claus Ibsen-2 wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 9:49 PM, harinair <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am using Camel to send messages from a Queue to external vendors. The
>>> protocol can be FTP/SFTP/HTTP or HTTPS. However sometimes the queue
>>> starts
>>> filling up which means that the messages are not getting drained. My
>>> feeling
>>> is the connection to a particular external vendor is stuck because the
>>> timeout is not properly set. My DSL is similar to:
>>>    <bean id="dataPushErrorHandler"
>>> class="org.apache.camel.builder.DeadLetterChannelBuilder">
>>>        <property name="defaultDeadLetterEndpointUri"
>>> value="seda:routerDeliveryAttempt1Queue" />
>>>        <property name="redeliveryPolicy" ref="dataPushRedeliveryPolicy"
>>> />
>>>    </bean>
>>>
>>>        <!-- Deliver the Live Data Push - Channel A data -->
>>>        <route errorHandlerRef="dataPushErrorHandler">
>>>            <from ref="routerDeliveryChannelAQueue" />
>>>            <process ref="securityHeaderGenerator" />
>>>            <to ref="routerLogDefault" />
>>>            <recipientList>
>>>                <xpath resultType="java.lang.String">$routerRoute</xpath>
>>>            </recipientList>
>>>            <to uri="bean:responseVerificationProcessor?method=process" />
>>>        </route>
>>>
>>>
>>> Now my questions is - is there any easy global parameter to set the
>>> timeout
>>> for all network operations done by Camel? If there is not is there any
>>> way I
>>> can set timeout for FTP/SFTP/HTTP modules? Is it a good idea to add a
>>> global
>>> timeout or to use sun.net.client.defaultConnectTimeout and
>>> sun.net.client.defaultReadTimeout?
>>
>> Yeah timeout setting is actually hard as well.
>> You got the OS level, the JVM, the JVM system properties, the
>> framework and then Camel as well.
>> And they all got different/independent timeout and whatnot.
>>
>>
>> A general timeout feature does not exists in Camel. Some of the
>> transports offer a timeout.
>> - JMS
>> - Mina
>> - and maybe some others but I cannot remember. But its documented in
>> the wiki if they have a timeout option
>>
>> However we could consider having a Camel timeout feature so Camel at
>> least could and indicate a timeout error.
>> However its not easy to do with all protocols. And we need some latch
>> around that can trigger when a timeout occur.
>>
>> But I do think we could add something to the SendToProcessor that can
>> support a custom Camel timeout that kinda overrule any other.
>> But this requires a latch and to use a different thread for sending.
>> Or am I wrong on this?
>>
>> Any thought?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Hari Gangadharan
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Claus Ibsen
>> Apache Camel Committer
>>
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