On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 12:24 PM, ext2 <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi:
>  It seems the camel's graceful shutdownis just like the requirement "robust
> stop application":  give a waiting time, force stop, and do it's best
> ability to avoid lost message;
>
> But the camel cannot support "try to stop" interface; isn't it?

Fell free to create a ticket about that last requirement to give up
(eg try to stop but give up if you could not do it after X seconds).



> ======================================================
>>Hi
>>Can you elaborate on the robust shutdown?
>
>>My experience is if you can't do the grace for shutdown with a certain
>>time, the on flight exchanges maybe have no other change to be processed.
>
>>Do you mean Camel should store these on flight exchanges into a
>>persistence storage, if the wait time is out.
>
> No, It doesn't ask for so such process.
>
> From the end user(system manager)'s point, it just means camel should give
> him chance to choose:
> 1) robust stop the application: It means the application must be stopped
> until the waiting-time expired;
> 2) or just try to stop application: it means the application must not be
> stopped if system is still busy until waiting time out.
>
> This function could tell the system manager: if you don't want to lost the
> message, you can do "try to stop " again and again. But if you couldn't
> endure and choose to robust stop ((especially the case: deadlocked by extern
> system), then you will have a risk to lost a message.
>
> whether using persistence storage or other means , it 's just a different
> ways to implement the "try to stop" requirement; For example we can use
> another simple ways to implement the requirement:
> Suspending the consumer's IO operation to avoid  continue to process
> external message; and just waiting the Exchange to be processed over;  if
> the Exchange is still being processed while time out, just return false to
> indicate try-stop failed;
>
> Thanks
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