The name itself is very close to the home automatisation project http://www.openhab.org/
just my 2ct Jan > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Claus Ibsen [mailto:[email protected]] > Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. November 2017 16:27 > An: [email protected] > Cc: Juza Petr > Betreff: Re: OpenHub framework - Apache Camel, but improved ... > > Hi Juza > > Thanks for announcing your project to the Apache Camel community. > > I do hope your team will get chances to participate in the Apache Camel > community as well, and based on your experience, be able to contribute > here as well, whether its bug fixes, new components, improvements to > documentation, etc. > > We are a very open and welcoming community, and have seen many people > come and go over the last decade that Apache Camel has been around. > > I am glad to see new projects come and reuse parts of Apache Camel for > whatever is being built and offered. For example my own employer does > that in the JBoss Fuse product. > > However with my ASF hat on, then I am agreeing with Bilgin, that I see > a concern with how you present your project on your website > http://www.openhub.cz/ > > The first text that you will see is > > Apache Camel, but improved > > As I see it, there are 2 problems: > > > 1) > As Bilgin says, saying Apache Camel but improved, is misleading the > users, as its NOT Apache Camel. There is only ONE Apache Camel. > > I would like to hear your thoughts on #1 and hear what we can do done > to correct this. > > > 2) > When you mention any of the ASF projects, on your website or elsewhere, > you must do this according to ASF trademark policy, in regards to ASF > marks. You can read more about this here: > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/ > > For example Saviortech provides in the bottom of their website an > attribution to ASF about using marks of the Apache projects that > Saviortech uses on their website: http://www.savoirtech.com/camel > > > I would like to hear your thoughts especially on #1 and hear what we > can do done to correct this. > For #2 then I would suggest to follow the example from Saviortech. > However take a look at that link: > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/ > > > > On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 3:11 PM, Bilgin Ibryam <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hello OpenHub, > > > > It is great to see another product based on Apache Camel. Seems like > > an interesting stack with Camel, and hope you become even more > > successful, and contribute back to Apache Camel to make it a better > as well. > > > > I cannot resist express my personal opinion about one thing I dislike > > about OpenHub - its tag line: “Apache Camel, but improved” > > Looking at your architecture diagram, it seems it is another > packaging > > of Apache Camel with modern tools around it, which is great. That is > a > > very similar model to Talend ESB, JBoss Fuse, JBoss Switchyard, etc. > > None of these projects are “Better Camel”, as Camel is a pure library > > that can be embedded in all kind of stacks, and aforementioned > > projects are packaging of Camel with other projects. > > > > So saying “Better Camel” is misleading as it implies OpenHub is an > > equivalent of Camel, where in essence it is Camel with addons. > > Don’t take this personally, I have been comparing Camel (to Spring > > Boot which is actually something similar to Apache Camel), blogging, > > defending Camel often and for over a decade there has not come > another > > framework that is in the same category as Camel but better. OpenHub > is > > not an exception here either. > > > > Hope you see my feedback as a constrictive one and it can help you > > make OpenHub better. > > Good luck and looking forward to see PRs to Camel and make it better > > ;) > > > > Bilgin > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 7:24 PM, Juza Petr <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> Dear community, > >> we would like to introduce to you our OpenHub framework - it’s still > >> Apache Camel but with additional functions and with full application > >> stack based on Spring Boot. > >> > >> Main OpenHub extensions > >> (https://openhubframework.atlassian.net/wiki/x/QIM > >> ): > >> asynchronous messaging model > >> parent-child concept > >> obsolete messages > >> guaranteed message processing order > >> confirmation to callee system > >> alerts and monitoring > >> cluster support > >> proven full application stack based on Spring libraries own admin > >> console GUI > >> > >> URL: www.openhubframework.org <http://www.openhubframework.org/> > >> GitHub: https://github.com/OpenWiseSolutions/openhub-framework < > >> https://github.com/OpenWiseSolutions/openhub-framework> > >> Doc: https://openhubframework.atlassian.net > <https://openhubframework. > >> atlassian.net/> > >> > >> > >> Articles on JavaCodeGeeks: > >> Introducing OpenHub framework - > >> https://www.javacodegeeks.com/ 2017/10/introducing-openhub- > framework.html <https://www.javacodegeeks. > >> com/2017/10/introducing-openhub-framework.html> > >> Asynchronous communication made by OpenHub framework - > >> https://www.javacodegeeks.com/2017/10/asynchronous- > >> communication-made-openhub-framework.html > <https://www.javacodegeeks. > >> com/2017/10/asynchronous-communication-made-openhub-framework.html> > >> Next Interesting Features - https://www.javacodegeeks.com/ > >> 2017/11/openhub-framework-next-interesting-features.html < > >> https://www.javacodegeeks.com/2017/11/openhub-framework- > >> next-interesting-features.html> > >> > >> > >> Please, we would like to get feedback from you. > >> > >> Thank you very much. > >> PETR > >> > >> ___ _ _ _ > >> / _ \ _ __ ___ _ __ | | | |_ _| |__ > >> | | | | '_ \ / _ \ '_ \| |_| | | | | '_ \ | |_| | |_) | __/ | | | > >> _ | |_| | |_) | > >> \___/| .__/ \___|_| |_|_| |_|\__,_|_.__/ > >> |_| version: 2.0.0-RC1 > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Bilgin Ibryam > > ASF Member | Architect at Red Hat > > http://ofbizian.com | @bibryam <https://twitter.com/bibryam> > > > > Kubernetes Patterns http://leanpub.com/k8spatterns (in progress) > Camel > > Design Patterns https://leanpub.com/camel-design-patterns > > > > -- > Claus Ibsen > ----------------- > http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus > Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
